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    Quote Originally Posted by NB Canada View Post
    I couldn’t care less about the political correctness of it but it is just so tiring on this forum
    Seems like the “in” thing to say
    I personally would like the term banned from the forum by moderators
    They have either served him or the previous owner very well since 2018 so it is confusing as to why he referred to them as bombs


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    Because they are made in China and they go off like a bomb. Not too hard to figure out. It is a fact, just like the fact that this wonderful virus originated in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker View Post
    Because they are made in China and they go off like a bomb. Not too hard to figure out. It is a fact, just like the fact that this wonderful virus originated in China.
    Unsure what a virus has to do with tires but keep in mind the number rated tire in the RV industry is the Sailun and I don’t believe they explode like a bomb. Sometimes they don’t even lose air


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    The china bomb tires issue seems to going off into the weeds once again......imagine that ! For those interested in facts and the history on this phrase, a little history may be in order once again.

    About 15 years or so ago tires being manufactured in China were missing or had an insufficient to safety specifications "gum strips." These strips were important safety items to bond the plys (some or all) for radial tires. Tire blowouts were occurring with some frequency and at times causing some serious and deadly events. Combining the China made tires with blowouts evolved into the China bomb phrase used often back then but out of context over the last several years with tires produced over the last decade.

    Maybe with help from the fireworks industry too, China bombs (Cherry Bombs) were some pretty explosive fireworks back in the day......1/4 stick of dynamite as I recall. My BIL still has some I think. When he lights one up, we can hear them 5 miles away.......the fireworks.......not the tires !

    There are a number of links in the internet universe to learn about this. Here is one: https://www.lawyersandsettlements.co...ina-tires.html

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    Exclamation Q: Why are Westlake tires called “China bombs”?

    A: There is nothing racist or politically incorrect about the name. Westlakes are made by a Chinese owned company and have a well deserved reputation for failing so that the tread rips apart, damaging the trailer just above the tires. This is not new issue. Chinese tire brands have had a longstanding reputation for being less expensive and less reliable. Westlake just happens to be the supplier of note here because GD put them on so many of their trailers and had a fair number of failures. Putting these things on our RVs shows just how much RV companies are concerned about cost v quality, but that is a whole other rant.

    Anyway, problems with Chinese owned tire brands have been going on for decades. While good tires are made in China (by US, Japanese, Korean, and European owned/licensed factories), those made by Chinese owned firms are highly problematic. Of considerable note is Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Company, maker of Westlake. It is called out as a manufacturer to avoid by several publications. When Consumer Reports tested several Chinese owned and branded automobile tires, the best that could be said was that they were better than worn out old tires. There is one exception. It appears that SAILUN has gained SOME respectability in the last few years. But.... if you have some time and want to fully understand why my Westlakes are coming off before our next trip... take a look at these links:

    https://mechanicbase.com/tires/tire-...id-purchasing/
    https://www.tirereview.com/buyer-bew...uality-levels/
    https://www.bigclassaction.com/lawsu...jury-death.php
    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3463197&page=1
    https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...gain/index.htm
    https://www.carsdirect.com/car-repai...anies-to-avoid

    And that is just to start. I can't understand why anyone would put these things on. You'd be better off with a set of quality used tires by any name brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadeo6472 View Post
    A: There is nothing racist or politically incorrect about the name. Westlakes are made by a Chinese owned company and have a well deserved reputation for failing so that the tread rips apart, damaging the trailer just above the tires. This is not new issue. Chinese tire brands have had a longstanding reputation for being less expensive and less reliable. Westlake just happens to be the supplier of note here because GD put them on so many of their trailers and had a fair number of failures. Putting these things on our RVs shows just how much RV companies are concerned about cost v quality, but that is a whole other rant.

    Anyway, problems with Chinese owned tire brands have been going on for decades. While good tires are made in China (by US, Japanese, Korean, and European owned factories), those made by Chinese owned firms are highly problematic. Of considerable note is Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Company, maker of Westlake. It is called out as a manufacturer to avoid by several publications. When Consumer Reports tested several Chinese owned and branded automobile tires, the best that could be said was that they were better than worn out old tires. There is one exception. It appears that SAILUN has gained SOME respectability in the last few years. But.... if you have some time and want to fully understand why my Westlakes are coming off before our next trip... take a look at these links:

    https://mechanicbase.com/tires/tire-...id-purchasing/
    https://www.tirereview.com/buyer-bew...uality-levels/
    https://www.bigclassaction.com/lawsu...jury-death.php
    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3463197&page=1
    https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...gain/index.htm
    https://www.carsdirect.com/car-repai...anies-to-avoid

    And that is just to start. I can't understand why anyone would put these things on. You'd be better off with a set of quality used tires by any name brand.
    Thanks for this post. Very informative.
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