RV/Truck newbies here and need some advice.

[jleonard]

https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...2&action=click


This very simple short video demonstrates the tongue weight dilemma.

[eveilleu]

https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...2&action=click


This very simple short video demonstrates the tongue weight dilemma.

Thanks! Just showed this to my wife. Now we're getting a 250 for sure!!

Eric

[NB Canada]

Thanks! Just showed this to my wife. Now we're getting a 250 for sure!!

Eric

Okay. Good idea if that is what you want to have but unsure what you took from these videos?

A bigger truck will not stop sway


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

[Chewwi]

. . . You should never adjust TW to fit a tow vehicle. TW needs to be based on trailer weight

Light tongue weights are almost 100 percent responsible for sway. Heavy tongues do not sway

Physics don’t allow it

Never say never!!

I agree that tongue weight needs to be based on trailer weight, 10 - 15 % according to my RVs owners manual as well as my tow vehicles owners manual, and pretty much any guidance on this I’ve ever seen anywhere. I never said otherwise, but the tongues weight must also not cause the tow vehicle to exceed its applicable limits. I’ve seen nothing in your statement that would contradict adjusting the tongue weight to meet all the applicable limits.

Other than just stating it, to use your own expression, do you have any article or other evidence proving this?

Tongues that are TOO light will cause sway. Heavy tounges may not cause sway but those that are TOO heavy can exceed the tow vehicle’s payload, axle ratings, tire ratings, hitch ratings, not to mention the guidance in both the vehicles owners manuals.

Nothing in Newtonian’s physics is violated and relativistic physics is just not relavent in this case.

[eveilleu]

Okay. Good idea if that is what you want to have but unsure what you took from these videos?

A bigger truck will not stop sway

We took from this video that we need to make sure we have enough weight up front. That means more payload requirements. So there you go, we need more truck than what we thought of initially. We were heading in the different direction, trying to figure out ways to have less weight on the truck.

Eric

[RV Sailor]

How to stop the tail wagging the dog. Good Explanation. First....don’t have the combo over the payload capacity. But....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0ndz...re=emb_rel_end

[NB Canada]

Never say never!!

I agree that tongue weight needs to be based on trailer weight, 10 - 15 % according to my RVs owners manual as well as my tow vehicles owners manual, and pretty much any guidance on this I’ve ever seen anywhere. I never said otherwise, but the tongues weight must also not cause the tow vehicle to exceed its applicable limits. I’ve seen nothing in your statement that would contradict adjusting the tongue weight to meet all the applicable limits.

Other than just stating it, to use your own expression, do you have any article or other evidence proving this?

Tongues that are TOO light will cause sway. Heavy tounges may not cause sway but those that are TOO heavy can exceed the tow vehicle’s payload, axle ratings, tire ratings, hitch ratings, not to mention the guidance in both the vehicles owners manuals.

Nothing in Newtonian’s physics is violated and relativistic physics is just not relavent in this case.

I would rather “overload” the suggested payload of a vehicle before I would attempt to lighten a tongue

You do you but any attempts to lighten a tongue to match a vehicle is disastrous

And 10 percent is not enough

When the wind hits the front of a trailer it lifts the tongue decreasing weight and control

Boats can have 10 percent not a tt

Sway is caused by improper loading. Period. Having a heavy tongue will eliminate sway


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

[NB Canada]

How to stop the tail wagging the dog. Good Explanation. First....don’t have the combo over the payload capacity. But....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0ndz...re=emb_rel_end

You keep saying this but being over payload does not cause sway
This statement will have people believing they should lighten the tongue weight which will create sway
Payload capacity has nothing to do with it

Yes yes I know what you are getting at. “Don’t exceed the limits”
But these are two entirely different issues

Sway is caused by improper loading


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

[WeirdAl]

You keep saying this but being over payload does not cause sway
This statement will have people believing they should lighten the tongue weight which will create sway
Payload capacity has nothing to do with it

Yes yes I know what you are getting at. “Don’t exceed the limits”
But these are two entirely different issues

Sway is caused by improper loading


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

Improper loading for sure. Additionally, when we had our 297RSTS (which I towed VERY WELL with a 1500 Silverado) it towed best with about 1/2 tank of fresh water for our setup. I used a 1500# Husky Centerline hitch and it towed rock steady like a dream. You definitely have to watch what you load in the rear of the trailer, keep more weight up front, and stay within your truck capacity. (The 1500 Silverado could EASILY pull the Reflection we had, and it had a payload capacity of 2031#, and we were well within that on the 297RSTS)

MY ADVICE (from a comedian/Polka aficionado) is to try and not become a member of the two truck club. Maybe someday we will be allowed to visit the Great White North again for some poutine. Have a good one!

[Chewwi]

I would rather “overload” the suggested payload of a vehicle before I would attempt to lighten a tongue

You do you but any attempts to lighten a tongue to match a vehicle is disastrous

And 10 percent is not enough

When the wind hits the front of a trailer it lifts the tongue decreasing weight and control

Boats can have 10 percent not a tt

Sway is caused by improper loading. Period. Having a heavy tongue will eliminate sway


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

I could point out the multiple weaknesses in your argument, point by point, but that would likely just turn into mockery. I’m comfortable with having my RV’s tongue weight and tow vehicle’s weights within all limits. No sway and no disaster.

Clearly you are comfortable being tongue heavy even it it means exceeding other applicable limits.