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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    I really don't know what the other Reflections have, how far are you from a dealer?
    Steve and Schlonda- Virgie, Kentucky
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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    No problem, Glazier...as I said in my original post, I'm looking at the 'shorties'.

    I'm far enough away that I'm trying to do as much homework as I can before the 4-hr drive.

    By the way, since all the models seem to use the same Atwood water-heater, is it an auto-ignition gas/elec, or a manual pilot-lighter?

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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    I should have mentioned my last Fifth Wheel was a Jayco, so this one has a lot to live up to. My Jayco was as close to perfect as it gets. If you are in to function as you mentioned, no so much eye candy, you will have a hard time beating a Jayco. I looked at Primetime, Columbus, Montana, and Cedar Creek. I would have bought another Jayco, but this floorplan is very spacious and the overall length is under 38'. I have never camped in this trailer, I hope it's quality is there when we start using it.
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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    yeah....Jayco impresses me

    I'm looking at an Eagle Premier 321........not really a fair comparison for the Reflection, but it's under 35'


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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    [quote author=Connor McGillicuddy link=topic=223.msg1390#msg1390 date=1388811895]
    I'm looking at an Eagle Premier 321........not really a fair comparison for the Reflection, but it's under 35'
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    Hmm...their spec says it's 35'11". You're right though, it's not a fair comparison to the Reflection 337 RLS...the Reflection has a far nicer floorplan, features and storage room but then, I'm a little biased.

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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    My bad, Happy.....it's a '13 Eagle Premier, which is 35'5"

    I set my limit at 35', and let that one sneak in, because I like Jayco...........and again, the 337 is not, at 36' plus, on my list......I'm looking at the shorties.....293/303

    But since you mention the 337.....it still has a 6-gal water heater, correct?.....and you mentioned storage....do you know the cubic footage of the basement pass-thru?

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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    [quote author=Connor McGillicuddy link=topic=223.msg1393#msg1393 date=1388850229]
    But since you mention the 337.....it still has a 6-gal water heater, correct?.....and you mentioned storage....do you know the cubic footage of the basement pass-thru?
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    Though the 337's a bit longer. they're about the same dry weight.

    Yes. it has a 6 gal Atwood WH but their recovery rate is higher than any size Suburban WH (17.7 vs 16.2 g/hr.) according to specs that I've found. It seems that Atwood only make 6 and 10 gal WH where Suburban make 4, 6, 10, 12 and 16 gal. WH's.
    We've never had an issue with the capacity of a 6 gal WH and usually have only run the electric side, but that's us.

    I don't have the storage volume of the basement pass thru...the Reflection isn't a drop frame design so that area probably isn't as high as the Premier, but looks wider...they're partitioned differently, pass thru vs front compartment. The basement wasn't the area I was thinking of...the kitchen for example would have at least twice the storage compared to the Premier.

    Just my thoughts...

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    I see.........thanks for the info!

    As a single guy, not only does that allow me to not get to concerned about the 'glam'.....but it also allows me to make ANY aspect of the kitchen my last priority... 8).....I'm more concerned about being able to store things like a ladder, air compressor, tools, etc.

    btw, one of the higher-end shorties..Alpine 3010, maybe, though it's 12-gal., if I recall, or maybe the 14 Premier line...I can't remember, advertises a 10-gal/20-gal per/hr recovery.........but I never put too much stock in stuff like that........sorta' like R-values.......or mpg estimates......ha!

    thanks again

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    Re: Guts vs Glam...R-value calculation, frame size, brake size, A/c

    [quote author=Connor McGillicuddy link=topic=223.msg1396#msg1396 date=1388860880]
    As a single guy, not only does that allow me to not get to concerned about the 'glam'.....but it also allows me to make ANY aspect of the kitchen my last priority... 8).....I'm more concerned about being able to store things like a ladder, air compressor, tools, etc.
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    Maybe this is more in line with what you're looking for! ;D

    Dave

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