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10-01-2021, 01:07 PM #21
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i can't detach after the dealer left a locking pin in our turning point 5th wheel
so we took our grand design reflection in for warranty work and we went to pick it up we hooked up and went to leave, we heard a loud noise we stoped 2 times got out and checked and everything looked ok drove it an hour to get home no problem backed into the driveway also no problem but then we couldn't detach. we found a sheared off bolt in the bed of the truck and the metal bent, so i'm assuming they reinstalled a lock pin without us knowing and didn't remove it. we have been on the phone with them but where getting no where is it ok to drive it back to the dealer? or is there a way we can detach and reattach if its not sitting right. thank you for any advice.
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10-01-2021, 01:09 PM #22
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so we took our grand design reflection in for warranty work and we went to pick it up we hooked up and went to leave, we heard a loud noise we stoped 2 times got out and checked and everything looked ok drove it an hour to get home no problem backed into the driveway also no problem but then we couldn't detach. we found a sheared off bolt in the bed of the truck and the metal bent, so i'm assuming they reinstalled a lock pin without us knowing and didn't remove it. we have been on the phone with them but where getting no where is it ok to drive it back to the dealer? or is there a way we can detach and reattach if its not sitting right. thank you for any advice.
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10-01-2021, 01:33 PM #23
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We have had a 230RL for almost 3 years. I lost a lot of sleep in the first year about having something like this happen - the first time we towed our 230RL to the Dealer, they did the same thing (we used the TP Hitch in pivot mode with the wedge, and they inserted a lockout bolt so they could move our 230RL with a forklift). However, I caught it and removed the lockout bolt before we hooked up to take our trailer to the storage facility. After this same situation happened the second time we took our trailer in for work, I decided to remove the wedge and install both lockout bolts - thereby disabling the pivot capability where the pinbox attached at the trailer. The difference for us is that we have a F150 with a 6.5 ft bed, so we are fairly safe in turns, but I am PARANOID about hitting the cab if I turn too tight. Your situation is that with a short bed truck, you don't have much choice. Sorry you are in this pickle - rest assured, you are not alone. I have seen FB posts from a number of others that have sheared the wedge and cause severe damage to the hitch, bed, pinbox, etc. No easy fix - you must own what bolts are connected to your hitch at all times. Don't trust the dealer to do this - they deal with too many trailers in a day, and your safety is not a priority.
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Chad & Marisa (plus 7.5 lb Enzo!)
2018 Reflection 150 Series 230RL
2018 Ford F150 Lariat SuperCrew 3.5L Ecoboost
- Heavy Duty Payload Package, Max Trailer Tow Package, 6.5' Bed, 18" Wheels
- Demco Recon 21K Hitch, RetraxPRO MX Bed Cover
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10-01-2021, 06:48 PM #24
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I didn’t lube my PullRite slider hitch. Back in and it bent the hitch head. Locked it onto the pin. Some good old boys helped get it off the pin with a crow bar and sledge hammer. Had to drive 200 miles round trip to pick up a hitch head and slider plate. Lost a half day of travel and cost $632. Lesson learned: thoroughly read the manual. Lube the system frequently.
Mike & Linda
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2013 F250 Turbo Diesel Crew Cab
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10-01-2021, 07:41 PM #25
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10-02-2021, 05:42 AM #26
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I have the Sidewinder pin box on my trailer, which is the same as the Turning point. The couple of times I have gone to the dealers for warranty work, after parking the trailer, I put the bolts in the pin box to lock it in place for them, and I tie a long red banner on the bolts. Same as the "remove before flight" ones on airplanes. They do not get removed, unless the bolts are removed, which I do when I pick up the trailer.
2023 Chevy 3500HD CC SB 4x4 Dmax
2021 GD 320G with 8K axles
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10-02-2021, 06:41 AM #27
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10-02-2021, 06:47 AM #28
The more I hear about mishaps with the special hitches/pinboxes, the better I feel about having a plain manual slider.
2019 GD Momentum 397TH
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Former Fulltimers, now just using toy hauler to go to Motocross Races and Mountain Bike parks.
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10-02-2021, 04:11 PM #29
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The dealer should have shown and talked to you about the setup, especially something that important, but not surprised. You can go online and download the manual for it, if you did not get it in all your paperwork.
The trailer should have come with the bolt's, if not dealer needs to get them for you. Important to have the manual, as it has the torque values if you want to make it a fixed pin box, and also how to properly adjust the wedge, along with the torque values for it's bolts.
The dealer has to have the bolt's in, in order to tow it in the shop with a forklift. If they didn't, there would be two pivot points (pin box, and king pin), and it would get ugly towing it.Last edited by Wileykid; 10-02-2021 at 07:26 PM.
2023 Chevy 3500HD CC SB 4x4 Dmax
2021 GD 320G with 8K axles
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10-02-2021, 04:17 PM #30
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Reflection swivel table question
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