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04-12-2019, 08:10 PM #1
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Auxiliary Heater option
So, winter is officially over, BUT I was less than happy camping in the cold last winter, so I have been thinking of adding an aux. heater and I got to thinking about some of the chinese diesel fired heaters as a good way to supplement the propane heater. They have a strange way of rating them, 5kw is equal to 17000 btu's, I am thinking of the 8kw version. They will run on 2.5 gallons of diesel for over 24 hours. It would be easy to mount one in the basement storage area and duct the heat into the interior or even just into the basement and underbelly in very cold weather. Any thoughts?
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04-12-2019, 09:11 PM #2
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My only thought is CO2 poisoning. I know I am wrong, but I am skittish about it.
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04-12-2019, 09:42 PM #3
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The diesel heaters vent the exhaust to the outside, so there should not be any CO2 intrusion, but a Co2 monitor would still be a good idea. These are very popular to heat the cabs of semi trucks so they don't have to idle the engines.
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04-13-2019, 04:08 AM #4
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We camp from January to April in southern Ontario Canada. We have one 1500w oil filled electrically heated space heater and two 1500w ceramic space heaters. When we arrive for the weekend we'll fire everything up. It usually takes about two hours for the trailer to be comfortable. After the trailer is up to temp. the propane furnace rarely runs. Typical temperatures are from -10c/14f to -20c/-4f.
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04-13-2019, 05:25 AM #5
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We tied into the propane line at the oven and installed an olympian wave heater. the line comes through the bottom of the pantry. as a bonus, when not using the heater, it stores perfectly under the couch.
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04-13-2019, 07:36 AM #6
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I have been looking at the BLUE FLAME type heaters, myself, or the propane brick heaters. Everyone that I talk to say the are the best, for heating an RV. you already have the propane on board.
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04-13-2019, 07:42 AM #7
These are also popular in boats where a supply of diesel fuel is readily available. Providing diesel fuel for an RV heater would be another complication. There are marine systems that heat water which is then circulated to radiators at different locations. If you regularly camp in winter conditions, this might be worth considering.
Any heater that has combustion in a closed living space, is putting potentially dangerous combustion products into that space and using up the oxygen. They are all depending on sufficient outside air leakage into the living space to replenish the oxygen and dilute the combustion products, particularly the carbon monoxide. They all have warnings about not using these heaters while sleeping. Different jurisdictions have different make-up air requirements and some allow these heaters in living spaces and some don't. This is a good read for further information on this https://www.abe.iastate.edu/extensio...ances-aen-204/
The best plan is definitely to vent the combustion exhaust outside the RV.
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04-13-2019, 07:53 AM #8
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04-13-2019, 08:04 AM #9
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Rob,
I've often thought about making a hot water kerosene fueled tent heater but it never happened. Long ago, my Dad and I used to 4 wheel into remote areas while turkey hunting where we tent camped. Some years were really cold. Things change since this is now done with a motorhome.
Heating unit could be outside while hot water could be pumped into the sleeping area and through a radiator. Still think there could be value in a system like this if it was cost effective.
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04-13-2019, 08:09 AM #10
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I stand corrected, I meant CO, CO2 is just a term I am more familiar with when used in welding gases.
To further clarify the unit I am talking about, here is a link: https://www.amazon.com/Happybuy-Moto...omotive&sr=1-3
This unit has a vent that goes to the outside and also brings in air for combustion from the outside. If made properly, it should be as safe as the rv heater. The reason I would like a diesel fuel heater is mostly for convenience. I have a 60 gallon diesel tank in the bed of my truck with a pump. Last Christmas we parked our Solitude in our Daughters front yard in Belgrade, MT, it snowed and stayed cold. I brought two 100 lb propane bottles with me and each one only lasted about a week. Our electricity was limited to a 20 amp circuit, so if the fireplace was running we couldn't use much else. Electric heat doesn't keep the plumbing warm in the belly. There will still be a 12 volt draw almost equal to the main furnace. We had a hard time maintaining 70 degrees inside of our 310GK even after I added foil faced bubble wrap to the windows. The large amount of glass in this model lets in a lot of cold and adds a lot of heat in the sun. Insulated window coatings is also on my list. Spray foaming my frame rails did help with keeping the belly area warmer, but a lot of cold intrusion still comes from the slide out floors. All I can say is GD's R-15 insulation rating in the slideout floors from foil insulation is more like R-1. I found it very interesting to go around the inside of my 310gk with an infrared thermometer finding all of the cold spots. Another cold spot comes from the solid steps, cold crepes into the trailer from the outside metal and the inside metal was typically in the low 30's when it was in the teens outside. Pretty soon this thread will change to keeping cool in the summer, LOL.Last edited by Nuffsaid; 04-13-2019 at 08:42 AM.
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