Weight Not as Claimed?

[Roll With The Changes]

Just got the new fifth wheel. First trip out, I stopped at the scale to see exactly what it weighed and how it was distributed. The scale weight was 1200 pounds heavier and the hitch weight was 700 pounds heavier than the VIN specific weight sheet that came with it. If those weights are accurate, I need a bigger truck!

I was diligent before I bought it and made sure that my truck would do the job, but now I'm not sure what to do. My first impulse is to think the scale weight was wrong, but that's not very likely.

Thoughts anyone? And I'm curious, how many people actually weigh their rig?

[Roll With The Changes]

Should have mentioned that the hitch is already at 25% so I can't really load anything in the basement storage let alone put a 400 pound generator in the bay where it belongs.

[huntr70]

Did you buy the 2017 300GK new from a dealers lot?

[Roll With The Changes]

Used from dealer.

[JCR GD]

Are you saying it was over weight that much completely empty? Cuz those weights on spec sheet are with trailer completely empty, no batt, no propane etc.

If you are going on first trip you have loaded up.

Always use GVWR for loading and TV requirements.

[huntr70]

OK, so what may have been added on by the previous owner?

Slide toppers, washer/dryer, batteries, full LP tanks...all items not on the original weight sheet.

They are weighed empty when leaving the assembly line.

[Roll With The Changes]

Yes. That is a basically empty weight.

I was loaded for the first trip we had no more that 300 pounds of gear. I am very sensitive to how things are loaded so I'm saying that is a generous estimate. I assumed a battery would be included in the delivered weight, but even so we're talking 50 pounds. Otherwise, all tanks were empty. The only things added aftermarket are a battery charger and EMS that I installed (maybe 20 pounds)

Also, looking deeper at the weight sheet, the numbers on the sheet don't even add up with themselves!

[Roll With The Changes]

I went through this whole process with the Montana that we just traded in and the weights were pretty close to what was claimed.

[Jerryr]

Just got the new fifth wheel. First trip out, I stopped at the scale to see exactly what it weighed and how it was distributed. The scale weight was 1200 pounds heavier and the hitch weight was 700 pounds heavier than the VIN specific weight sheet that came with it. If those weights are accurate, I need a bigger truck!

I was diligent before I bought it and made sure that my truck would do the job, but now I'm not sure what to do. My first impulse is to think the scale weight was wrong, but that's not very likely.

Thoughts anyone? And I'm curious, how many people actually weigh their rig?

What weights does the weight sheet state?

When I was looking every Solitude would exceed the 3500 payload of my 1-ton F350 CCSB so I opted for a Reflection 337RLS.

A Dry unloaded 300GK has about 700 lbs more pin weight than my 337RLS. I cant imagine it would come in below payload on a 1-ton, no less a 3/4 ton.

Your 2500 Chevy Diesel Payload is probably in the 2300 lb range and a 300GK Dry, unloaded has to be around 3000 lbs itself. Then you have to add weight of driver, passenger, hitch and everything else you carry in the truck. A 300GK is Dually territory.

[Roll With The Changes]

First the truck part: You are correct about the 2500/3500 SRW weights. I am using the 3500 SRW weights because when I bought the truck, I found out that the only difference between the trucks in that year were the rear springs. Same part numbers for rear brakes, wheel bearings, ring and pinion, etc. After all that, I figured that adding airbags will make it a 3500 SRW. I also know that I am pushing the limit anyway.

Now the trailer part: Here are the weight sheet numbers.

GVWR: 15000
UVW: 12052
Hitch Weight: 2764
Fresh Water: 448
Hot Water: 100
LP: 60
Cargo Capacity: 2888


First, there is no way with any combination of those weights of water and LP that you can come up with 2888 cargo capacity. Next, If you take my estimate of what my cargo and mods above were and then double it, that would mean that all of my cargo weight would be directly on the pin (compared to the weight sheet)