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    Thanks for all the reassurance, much appreciated. I installed LED’s this morning so I wanted to see how they performed so I went for a ride & stopped by a close friends house. He’s been a die hard Chevy guy for years but couldn’t stop checking out the new truck, he was actually a little upset because now he has to look at Ford’s when he trades next year. We tried to fit it into his garage but it was a little too close for comfort, fortunately I told him the 2020 F-250SD is going to be about 2” lower, wouldn’t surprise me if he has a shiny new SD in the driveway for 2020.

    The LED’s are awesome by the way! I’m a happy man for sure.
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    Seasoned Camper Fishwater's Avatar
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    I installed the factory fifth wheel prep package last night, wasn’t too bad to install & took me less than four hours total. If anyone is in the same position that I was regarding finding one on the lot with the factory fifth wheel prep package be assured that the install is easy with a little mechanical ability. I also added airbags last week in preparation in case there’s too much sag with the 250 vs our old 350. I’m getting a little nervous about our upcoming trip so I may hook the 290BH up & take a ride on the highway this weekend to see how it tows.
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    2019 Ford F-250 CCSB Lariat Ultimate 6.2L/3.73 gearing
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    Looks great. Might take you a little while to find the sweet sport in the rpms, just let her eat you ain`t going to hurt it.
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    Is the bed in your truck aluminum? If not, be sure to paint or seal any exposed metal edges to prevent rust. Otherwise it looks like a job well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired Copper View Post
    Looks great. Might take you a little while to find the sweet sport in the rpms, just let her eat you ain`t going to hurt it.
    Thanks, yes, I figure that’s what I can start to find on my test run this weekend. I’ve gone back & forth so many times in my head between diesel vs gas & 3.73 vs 4.30’s that I just need to drag the trailer up a few hills to put my mind at ease.

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    Is the bed in your truck aluminum? If not, be sure to paint or seal any exposed metal edges to prevent rust. Otherwise it looks like a job well done.
    Yes, it’s aluminum but I still bought a tube of touch up paint & sealed the edges after I drilled the holes, better safe than sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishwater View Post
    I installed the factory fifth wheel prep package last night, wasn’t too bad to install & took me less than four hours total. If anyone is in the same position that I was regarding finding one on the lot with the factory fifth wheel prep package be assured that the install is easy with a little mechanical ability. I also added airbags last week in preparation in case there’s too much sag with the 250 vs our old 350. I’m getting a little nervous about our upcoming trip so I may hook the 290BH up & take a ride on the highway this weekend to see how it tows.
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    Hello again,

    No need to be nervous. I have the same set up as you. I have close to 3000 miles with this set up and no issues. I do not have the airbags. I am not sure I really need them. Ride is good no chucking to speak of. Sure it would be nice to have 900lbs of Diesel torque to go up a mountain but it is hard to justify. My biggest issue is getting use to a 5th wheel vs travel trailer. I keep waiting for that trailer to sway....The last travel trailer was a disaster waiting to happen. I am sure one quick trip down the highway and your concerns will be addressed. Have safe travels.

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    You will be in for a real treat once you hook your 5'er up. Night and day difference and its actually safer on long trips. We bought our first one just over a month ago and woe what a difference pulling it. So smooth and no sway whatsoever. I did have some chucking because the helper spring pads were barely touching the springs so I would feel it going over a hard bump, overpass, etc. I put some airlift airbags on it and it took away the chucking. So smooth. It would be tough going back down to a travel trailer. By you putting that fifth wheel prep on your truck, that hard work is going to pay off. You will not regret it.
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    Congrats on your new truck, looks good. I hope you will post how everything worked out after you have gone camping, and how you found the 3:73 gears to be. I checked with most of the dealers near me and I also could not find a truck with anything buy 3:73 gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cycler View Post
    Congrats on your new truck, looks good. I hope you will post how everything worked out after you have gone camping, and how you found the 3:73 gears to be. I checked with most of the dealers near me and I also could not find a truck with anything buy 3:73 gears.
    Hi, I’ve been mulling your question over for a couple of days since we are on the first leg of our 1170 mile trip, the first day being about 320 miles of towing through the rolling hills & “mountains” of western Mass & NY. We head off tomorrow for another 300 miles of towing towards Niagra Falls then from there back to Lake George NY & then finally home to NH.

    Yes, the 3.73’s are fine, not great (to me) but fine for towing our 290BH. My truck has the factory 18” wheels & the G transmission which is the saving grace. I drove a F350 with 20’s & the 6R140 transmission without the steeper first two gears & thought it was an absolute dog. I would as most anyone else who owns one of these trucks recommend the 4.30’s IF you can find one but I know that is very difficult to do. I drove two different trucks with 4.30’s, one a very nicely optioned XLT & the other a very nicely optioned Lariat Sport. In the end I picked the truck I have since it was priced closer to the XLT than the Sport but ended up with the 3.73’s since I only tow about 2000 miles a year with this trip being the exception, this is our biggest trip ever (9 days with multiple stops)

    So, I think for my situation I need to change my style of towing with this truck. I’m used to a diesel truck, I’ve had two before this one & towing is different as many mention. It’s a nice relaxing tow with over 900ft/lbs of torque, the tach rarely if ever climbs above 2500 rpm’s, climbing hills in the passing lane is the norm & keeping up with traffic at 75mph is no problem. I don’t think even with 4.30’s these trucks will do that, maybe with the new 7.3L it’s possible but only time will tell. So, back to this trip, I tried to maintain my usual towing style of 70 mph with traffic, sometimes climbing to to 75, sometimes above that as necessary & the truck felt weak, it did it but didn’t do it confidently IMO, also fuel mileage was terrible. I averaged 6.8 mpg’s this trip, yuck! I bought a gas truck knowing it wasn’t a diesel, wouldn’t get the same mileage towing & wouldn’t have the same power so that’s on me. What I NEED to do is back it down to 65mph, the truck feels very good towing at that speed, still has some more power in reserve & isn’t working as hard. Once I did that the truck performed well. Did I miss my diesel? You betcha, but I’ll get over it. I’ll enjoy the lower fuel costs, maintenance costs & no worries of failures over the life of the truck.

    So I think you have to ask yourself what your driving style is before you buy one with 3.73’s. If you’re a “spirited driver & tower” then definitely get the 4.30’s or a diesel. If you like to take your time & enjoy the ride then go for the 3.73’s. The beauty is that if you find that you really can’t handle the 3.73’s you can always do a gear change later on! We take off tomorrow morning for the next leg of our trip, I’ll try to adjust my towing style, keep it reasonable & I bet it will be just fine, I’ll report back later this week.....
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    Fishwater re your response truthfully I gotta say thanks for an honest and thorough post. Certainly a lot of factors figure into this and my wife and I r gonna have to be real about how much we will go on the road. We did decide to move from our active adult community however, so the 5th wheeler/truck will have to wait some. Good luck to you and safe travels.

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