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    1/2, 3/4, 1 Ton Truck Information

    Many people post here that they want a ½ ton truck instead of a 3/4 or 1 ton truck because they use it for their daily commute. I thought I would post the differences here just to show that heavy duty trucks are not that much bigger or more expensive than ½ ton trucks. Since I own a Ford 350, I am using Ford F150, F250, F350 stats. Those that are familiar with RAM and GM products, please post the comparisons with those makes.

    Size:

    All truck stats are Crew Cab (seems to be most popular) , short beds (6.5’ bed for the F150), 4x2s.

    Wheel Base:
    156.8”----F150 (6.5’ bed)
    159.8-----F250/F350 SWR (6.75’ bed)

    Length:
    243.7”----F150 (6.5’ bed)
    250.0”----F250/F350 (6.75’ bed)

    Width:
    79.9”-----F150 (excluding mirrors)
    80.0”-----F250/F350 (excluding mirrors) SRW

    Cab Ht:
    75.7”-----F150
    78.3”-----F250
    78.2”-----F350

    Summary: The SRW Super Duties are ~6” longer, .1” wider, and 1.5” taller. Ford even uses the same cab on the F150 and Super Duties. Not a big difference anywhere there. I can’t see any of those figures causing a problem, although the heavier weight of a Super Duty could cause a problem on bridges with a 4 ton rating.


    Now on to price. I priced out the different trim levels on a not quite middle of the line Lariat (2 trims below, and 3 trims above). The prices are for Crew Cabs, short beds (6.5’ for the F150, 6.75’ for the Super Duties), 4x2s SRW


    Price:
    Estimated Net Price on a F150: $45,850

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    Estimated Net Price on a F250: $49,065

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    Estimated Net Price on a F350: $50,235

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    To get the Maximum Tow Package on the F150, you have to up the engine choice to the 3.5L vs the 2.7L, which is understandable. The Maximum Tow Package on the F150 includes the telescoping tow mirrors and the integrated trailer braking system which comes standard in the Super Duties (power telescoping on the more deluxe trims). To add those 2 items to the mix, the new Estimated Net Price is $49,170……………more than the Estimated Net Price of the Lariat F250 !!

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    Now for realistic Payload Capacities. The maximum capacities listed on the Ford website are probably for the XL trim, no options, 4x2, and a regular cab short bed. When someone goes to a higher trim level, Super or Crew Cab, 4x4, and add options, all of those things bring the cargo carrying capacity down.

    These are "calculated guesses" after following several forums of actual posts by owners. Members here are welcome to chime in with their own truck cargo carrying capacities.

    Again, using 2019 Lariats, no additional options, Crew Cabs, 4x2s, short beds (F150 6.5’ bed)

    F150 ~1800 lbs
    F250 ~2800 lbs
    F350 ~4300 lbs

    Adding the 6.7 Power Stroke to the Super Duties:

    F250 ~2100 lbs
    F350 ~3600 lbs (my nicely optioned F350 4x4 Crew Cab is listed as 3426 lbs)

    A F250 diesel does not have much more payload than a F150, but the heavier frame and build would make a bid difference in towing stability. Many truck owners (me included) suggest that buyers considering the diesel in a Ύ ton truck should consider going to a 1 ton model to keep the cargo carrying capacity high. As noted above, the size stats are almost identical, and the cost is ~$1000 more for an extra 1500 lb of payload.

    Some Notes:
    1st of all, do not take the information given here as gospel. Do the research !!

    At least with Ford, check the GVWR of the particular truck you are buying or ordering. On a F250, you can “derate” the GVWR to 9900 lbs from the standard 10,000 lb GVWR (for licensing purposes). On the F350, you can “derate” the GVWR all the way down to 10,000 lbs from the 11,300 to 11,500 lb standard GVWR. It is my understanding that the “derating” does nothing to the build of the truck, it just changes the GVWR on the title. In my case, I want both the tags and truck sticker to reflect the higher rating (mine is 11,500 lbs) just in some overzealous law enforcement officer raises a fuss, or in case I am in an accident and somebody sues saying my truck was carrying too much weight, or something to that effect.

    The biggest differences in F150 and Super Duties with the standard engines will be fuel mileages. The 2.7L F150 will probably average around 20 mpg, and the Super Duty 6.2L will probably average around 16 mpg.

    If anyone discovers a mistake in my information, please feel free to correct me. As stated before, RAM and GM owners are welcome to post the stats for their particular brand.
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    That's the most accurate comparison that I've ever read in one place, easy to read, easy to understand....for the average consumer!

    I will just add that as a daily driver, the one ton is a quick learning curve over the half ton. I've been driving a dually as a daily driver for four years this time (had one about ten years ago to pull a triple axle boat trailer). At our age, it promotes exercise as we have to walk a little further to the door of the stores. LOL I will repeat what I read so many times in my research but being a knucklehead, I had to learn it the hard way also.......buy a one ton and buy it once! If you buy a 3/4 ton you are wasting your money trying to pinch a few bucks.

    When I bought my Arctic Fox I thought to myself "yea, but this RV is brand new....we'll have it for many, many years and we'll not need anything larger than a 3/4 ton truck". Well, that lasted for a couple of years and then that little Arctic Fox seemed to get smaller and smaller. Time to move up......to a Momentum and now we need a much bigger truck.....a dually. So I would suggest skipping the 3/4 ton, pay the little extra now and buy it once.
    SOLD my 2017 Momentum 376TH being pulled by a 2014 Ford F-350 Lariat, FX-4, Crew Cab, Longbed, Dually. Not pulling the 5er, catch me on my 2013 CVO Harley Ultra Classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnGuy View Post
    Many people post here that they want a ½ ton truck instead of a 3/4 or 1 ton truck because they use it for their daily commute. I thought I would post the differences here just to show that heavy duty trucks are not that much bigger or more expensive than ½ ton trucks. Since I own a Ford 350, I am using Ford F150, F250, F350 stats. Those that are familiar with RAM and GM products, please post the comparisons with those makes.

    Size:

    All truck stats are Crew Cab (seems to be most popular) , short beds (6.5’ bed for the F150), 4x2s.

    Wheel Base:
    156.8”----F150 (6.5’ bed)
    159.8-----F250/F350 SWR (6.75’ bed)

    Length:
    243.7”----F150 (6.5’ bed)
    250.0”----F250/F350 (6.75’ bed)

    Width:
    79.9”-----F150 (excluding mirrors)
    80.0”-----F250/F350 (excluding mirrors) SRW

    Cab Ht:
    75.7”-----F150
    78.3”-----F250
    78.2”-----F350

    Summary: The SRW Super Duties are ~6” longer, .1” wider, and 1.5” taller. Ford even uses the same cab on the F150 and Super Duties. Not a big difference anywhere there. I can’t see any of those figures causing a problem, although the heavier weight of a Super Duty could cause a problem on bridges with a 4 ton rating.


    Now on to price. I priced out the different trim levels on a not quite middle of the line Lariat (2 trims below, and 3 trims above). The prices are for Crew Cabs, short beds (6.5’ for the F150, 6.75’ for the Super Duties), 4x2s SRW


    Price:
    Estimated Net Price on a F150: $45,850

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    Estimated Net Price on a F250: $49,065

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    Estimated Net Price on a F350: $50,235

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    To get the Maximum Tow Package on the F150, you have to up the engine choice to the 3.5L vs the 2.7L, which is understandable. The Maximum Tow Package on the F150 includes the telescoping tow mirrors and the integrated trailer braking system which comes standard in the Super Duties (power telescoping on the more deluxe trims). To add those 2 items to the mix, the new Estimated Net Price is $49,170……………more than the Estimated Net Price of the Lariat F250 !!

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    Now for realistic Payload Capacities. The maximum capacities listed on the Ford website are probably for the XL trim, no options, 4x2, and a regular cab short bed. When someone goes to a higher trim level, Super or Crew Cab, 4x4, and add options, all of those things bring the cargo carrying capacity down.

    These are "calculated guesses" after following several forums of actual posts by owners. Members here are welcome to chime in with their own truck cargo carrying capacities.

    Again, using 2019 Lariats, no additional options, Crew Cabs, 4x2s, short beds (F150 6.5’ bed)

    F150 ~1800 lbs
    F250 ~2800 lbs
    F350 ~4300 lbs

    Adding the 6.7 Power Stroke to the Super Duties:

    F250 ~2100 lbs
    F350 ~3600 lbs (my nicely optioned F350 4x4 Crew Cab is listed as 3426 lbs)

    A F250 diesel does not have much more payload than a F150, but the heavier frame and build would make a bid difference in towing stability. Many truck owners (me included) suggest that buyers considering the diesel in a Ύ ton truck should consider going to a 1 ton model to keep the cargo carrying capacity high. As noted above, the size stats are almost identical, and the cost is ~$1000 more for an extra 1500 lb of payload.

    Some Notes:
    1st of all, do not take the information given here as gospel. Do the research !!

    At least with Ford, check the GVWR of the particular truck you are buying or ordering. On a F250, you can “derate” the GVWR to 9900 lbs from the standard 10,000 lb GVWR (for licensing purposes). On the F350, you can “derate” the GVWR all the way down to 10,000 lbs from the 11,300 to 11,500 lb standard GVWR. It is my understanding that the “derating” does nothing to the build of the truck, it just changes the GVWR on the title. In my case, I want both the tags and truck sticker to reflect the higher rating (mine is 11,500 lbs) just in some overzealous law enforcement officer raises a fuss, or in case I am in an accident and somebody sues saying my truck was carrying too much weight, or something to that effect.

    The biggest differences in F150 and Super Duties with the standard engines will be fuel mileages. The 2.7L F150 will probably average around 20 mpg, and the Super Duty 6.2L will probably average around 16 mpg.

    If anyone discovers a mistake in my information, please feel free to correct me. As stated before, RAM and GM owners are welcome to post the stats for their particular brand.
    The think the F250 Payload should be 3790-3890 for a 4x2 for 6.2L
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    Prev TV: 2016 F150 3.5L Supercab with 6.5' bed, 2167 payload, LT Tires, and Air Lift 5000 air bags set to 15lbs

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