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    Chevy 2500HD Duramax pulling a 337RLS?

    Looking at a 2017 337RLS, moving up from 297RSTS. Would like to hear form those pulling 337 or like with a 3/4 ton. Seem to be slightly over on weight when figured one way and under when figured another. We know that most tow with 1 tons, but buying a new truck is not in the near term for us.

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    Your best bet is to look at the payload sticker on the driver side door post and tell us what that says as far as payload capacity or CCC Cargo Carrying Capacity. Normally a diesel 3/4T truck has a pretty low payload number....2100-2200 lbs. If that's the case, the empty weight of the trailer will put you right at the maximum payload capacity of the truck. Let us know your actual payload number.
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    Thanks for your help. Actual payload number on sticker is 2450#, but when I subtract actual CAT scale weight of 7200# from GVWR of 10000 #on sticker, I get 2800#. Rear axle weight load of 6200# on sticker with CAT scale measurement of only 3200# with full tank of fuel. When it is all added up, I got about 250# over on payload, but well under on all other measurements.

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    We started out with a Sierra 2500HD CC SB D/A and our 337... too much trailer for the truck in terms of pin weight. The 337 can easily put over 3,000 lbs. on the pin. We were always having to weigh and off-load stuff. It would get down the road just fine, but there wasn't a safety margin. When we had an opportunity to trade for a DRW 1-ton, we jumped on it. I would advise going with a smaller trailer unless you're willing to move up to a truck with more payload. There are a number of members on the forum who belong to the "Two-Timers' Club" - those who had to buy a two vehicle twice for the same reasons.

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    Good info, thanks. Do you put all of the added weight in the RV down as "pin weight"? I thought that most of that weight went towards the GCVWR, and only a % add to the pin. I am learning more each comment. And I thought that I knew it all when I woke up this morn. Maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill G View Post
    Good info, thanks. Do you put all of the added weight in the RV down as "pin weight"? I thought that most of that weight went towards the GCVWR, and only a % add to the pin. I am learning more each comment. And I thought that I knew it all when I woke up this morn. Maybe not.
    Adding weight to the RV will affect the pin weight......either adding more, or in the case of a Toy Hauler with a rear garage, making the pin weight less than it was originally. So in answer to your question, adding weight to the trailer will make the pin weight change. Depending on how much weight you add, and the location of the weight, the pin weight will be a different number. The only true way, or should I say the easiest way to know how added weight will affect the pin is to do a weigh in at a CAT scale and see exactly what you did and how it affected the pin weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill G View Post
    Good info, thanks. Do you put all of the added weight in the RV down as "pin weight"? I thought that most of that weight went towards the GCVWR, and only a % add to the pin. I am learning more each comment. And I thought that I knew it all when I woke up this morn. Maybe not.
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    I count any difference in the Rear axle weight between my 1st CAT scale without the RV and the 2nd weigh with the RV as pin weight. I load my TV, passengers, full tank of diesel, stuff in the bed and get my empty weight. Hook up the RV and weigh again.. The difference is pin weight. You will likely notice the front axle weigh may actually decrease when hooked up. Your 2nd weight ticket should list both axles for the truck and the axles for the trailer
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    Lots of 2500 diesels pulling 5th wheels on the road. Many long threads on same question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob/OlallaWA View Post
    Lots of 2500 diesels pulling 5th wheels on the road. Many long threads on same question.
    Lots of folks towing overloaded too. Some just simply don't know any better, some just don't care. At least the O.P. is asking and he hopefully realizes that it's too much trailer for his truck. That trailer has a GVWR of ~14,000 lbs. 20% of that is 2800 lbs of pin weight.........on a truck that likely has a payload in the very low 20s. Care to justify that for us Bob?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrated View Post
    Lots of folks towing overloaded too. Some just simply don't know any better, some just don't care. At least the O.P. is asking and he hopefully realizes that it's too much trailer for his truck. That trailer has a GVWR of ~14,000 lbs. 20% of that is 2800 lbs of pin weight.........on a truck that likely has a payload in the very low 20s. Care to justify that for us Bob?
    Most trailers come with axles that are rated under GVWR from the start. So does your trailer have the correct axles for the weight? Care to justify xrated?
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