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    Anytime you back up with a significant angle on hard surface you stress trailer suspension, axles, tires hangers and everything else.

    Look at the twist on my Reflection with a 70 degree turn. This I why I try to limit turns to 45 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goducks14 View Post
    IIRC the Reflection hangers are thicker.
    I haven't looked at the hangers on a Reflection, so I defer to someone who has.

    I still wouldn't put it past them to use the same soft steel, albeit thicker.


    Not disagreeing that the HA caused the hanger to bend. But if the hanger was thicker and the proper frame stiffeners were added your HA would not bend the hangers.
    How many times have you tight turned your Imagine?
    ONCE!

    (Blast it all.)


    Could be worse. You could have an Imagine with the wide track axle setup where some MFG's spread th axle far apart. Couple that with weak spring hangers and an HA and it would be a recipe for disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Najataagihe View Post
    I haven't looked at the hangers on a Reflection, so I defer to someone who has.

    I still wouldn't put it past them to use the same soft steel, albeit thicker.




    ONCE!

    (Blast it all.)




    Oy!
    Years ago I had a 2010 Heartland Northtrail with 4400# axles with the Wide Traxx suspension. Axles were further apart than the Imagines. Had a couple tires wearing weird. Took it to a big rig alignment shop. Tech guy that did the work said the Lippert 4400# axles were soft. They bent easily when he was doing the re-alignment so he put extra camber in.

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    I would keep a close eye on tire wear and temperature while towing your rig. The tire wear in the picture does appear more indicative of a camber issue, which causes excessive wear on either the inside or outside of the tire.

    A hanger issue would cause more similar wear as in a toe in or out wear pattern, which would be feathering of the tread pattern. Could be hard to tell, those tires are very worn.

    As others have stated, it is pretty sad that regardless of the model/brand the suspension components need to hold up under these type of conditions.

    Imagine if the truck drivers hauling goods had to deal with this subpar stuff, ohh can't turn my trailer to tight to back into the loading dock. That's crazy.

    I'm not directing this at you, but the subpar build quality of the RV industry as a whole.

    Hope your problem is rectified.

    Safe travels, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saldog View Post
    The tire wear in the picture does appear more indicative of a camber issue, which causes excessive wear on either the inside or outside of the tire.
    A camber issue would cause either the INSIDES (negative camber) or OUTSIDES (positive camber) of BOTH tires on an axle to be worn.

    In this case the RIGHT sides of both tires were worn, which can only happen if the axle is not perpendicular to the frame rails.
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    Another common wear point to keep an eye on is the leaf spring eye bushings. They can be a combination of a steel bushings with no grease fittings, and nylon/plastic on the equalizer which was the case on our 315RLTS.

    Our camper had low mileage on it and the bushings were all shot, which created play in the suspension components. I noticed this when replacing the grease contaminated brakes. You could push the axle to each side of the camper when jacked up. The play was about 7/16 of an inch on one axle, and 3/8 on the other. Does not sound like much, but when you move the trailer as your picture shows that's about 3/4 of an inch out being in line.

    Hope your repairs holds up.

    Safe travels, Jim

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