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02-13-2020, 04:43 PM #1
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New to diesels and cold weather ops
Hi all – This is my first winter with a diesel truck. I haven’t been driving it much since the trailer hasn’t arrived yet. Due to this mild winter here in southern New England, I’m mostly able to avoid cold weather driving EXCEPT for this upcoming weekend day trip where the temps are expected to range from the teens to high 20’s where I need to go. Couple questions:
I last filled the tank in mid-January. How do I know this had the “winter blend” which is rumored to lower the temp when gelling starts? I got the fuel at a busy Shell station.
Should I really look into fuel additives to prevent gelling?
Am I overreacting and maybe it's not cold enough to worry about it?
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02-13-2020, 07:41 PM #2
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Hello,
I've had my my truck since Nov. 2015 so 5 winters here in the Spokane Valley. In our area they start selling winter diesel at the beginning of Oct. through March. When It gets into the low teens I plug my truck in overnight (the first year I didn't have a block heater). That's about it. We get about a week of single digits here every year and so far no problems yet.
HTH,
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02-13-2020, 08:25 PM #3
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Mostly I think you are ok. But cheap insurance is fuel additive you can buy about anywhere. $20 dump it in. Search for your block heater connection. A regular 120v plug, kind of overkill 32-10f, single digit to subzero it pays for itself. Your engine is just happier if you plug it in.
Next oil change have the fuel filters replaced also, cheap insurance.
It's not a huge end of time thing, just one of those maintenance things you take care of as you go along.Dallas
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02-13-2020, 08:35 PM #4
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I'm a worrier that travels from warm to cold once or twice a year. I use the additive. The Ford additive is $9 to treat 100 or 125 gallons (don't recall). Thus far I haven't had any issues down to -6F (overnight, outside, unplugged). Your fuel is likely fine, but if you're worried the additive is pretty cheap.
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02-14-2020, 02:12 AM #5
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I do use the Motorcraft additives. PM23 for winter and PM22 for warm months. I agree with others that in your market winter fuel was sold way before January. Others may differ in opinion here and I am sure may weigh in, however, I believe you need to drive your truck regularly to keep it “healthy”. Diesels typically don’t respond well to extended periods of park time. Starting them and letting them run in the driveway occasionally is not really effective as the truck won’t get up to normal operating temperature. Driving is the best medicine and if some interstate time and towing are part of that its even better. These trucks are built for towing and work they tend to respond well if you use them and are diligent with preventive maintenance. I also agree with regular changing of the fuel filters I have mine changed every 15000 miles and change the engine air filter at each oil change. I also do service intervals at 5000 miles even though on the Ford app it says my truck’s service interval is 10000 miles.
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02-14-2020, 07:23 AM #6
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Ken in post #2 covered the key points where winter blending starts in late fall through spring in norther climates. The farther north one goes the more extreme the blend allowing operation at colder temperatures. Our fuel in SD is blended down to -10.
Sometime ago I saw a chart of the USA broken into regions where the farther north one goes the more the fuel is blended to address increasing colder temperatures. I could not find that now. Would be interested in seeing that again.
To the OP - trusting you filled with winter blend from your region with little or no summer fuel, you will be fine. We have drive in -15 temps with no problems with our -10 blended fuel. If it gets colder, our area has #1 diesel at many stations and that will handle extreme cold.......I do not recall how cold. Our fire department uses this #1 fuel in the winter to be prepared for the worst.
I have never used additives.....in fact our Owners Manual says to not use them.
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02-14-2020, 08:23 AM #7
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Here in Wisconsin, the winter blend is usually identified by a foam sleeve or collar placed around the pump hose that says "WINTER BLEND" or something similar. A few stations will just have a placard on the pump that says so. In either case it should be clearly marked.
I use a fuel additive for other reasons, but it is good to -10F. I also carry some additive that gets me down to -50F just in case.
Around here the standard winter blend should be good for the teens and 20's. Since I use an additive year round, It doesn't get much thought until the single digits. Today was -9F on my way to work this morning.
My .02 cents worth of opinion:
As someone else mentioned, I would plug in (where ever reasonably possible) once it gets into the 30's. It's not a critical thing but it sure warms up faster. If you are not plugged in, just give it a few minutes before sending the RPM's too high. Colder = longer. I tend to idle out of the neighborhood and that takes 2 to 3 minutes. If it's colder (like today at -9F) I try and keep it below about 2100 rpm until I show some temperature on the gauge. You will find every diesel owner has their own methods, you'll find something that works for you.Rob & Kathy
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02-14-2020, 12:04 PM #8
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Thank you all for the comments - very helpful. The truck is kept in an insulated garage which very rarely gets below freezing. Maybe I'll try the block heater just to test it out. And this afternoon I'll look for some PM-23-A to be on the safe side. Thanks again!
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02-14-2020, 12:32 PM #9
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Funny you mention this......our truck is in our insulated garage and plugged in right now. I only do this when it gets below -10ish outside just to have the truck warm up more quickly when I drive. A warm block thus heater, a little warmer oil, no glow plugs needed at start.......nice.
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02-14-2020, 01:17 PM #10
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You may want to check your window sticker to make sure you have an engine block heater, it's an option that has to be ordered. I hunted and hunted for the block heater connection and couldn't find it, finally drove into a Ford dealer and asked the service writer. Took him a minute to find it also, it was tucked way up inside the front bumper on the passenger side just above the tow hooks.
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