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    Norcold 2118 behavior

    So I decided to track the temperature on our Norcold 2118 fridge and freezer and found some odd behavior. To the best of my knowledge, these models don't have a defrost cycle yet the data shows that approx every other day, it seems to go through a warm up cycle. It doesn't get warm enough to do any defrosting though.
    The data also shows that it's cooling cycle is usually quite a bit longer than its resting cycle which is something I have known for a while. We have gone through all the normal checks such as door seals, door flapper, etc. and they are fine.
    This data is all on 110V but results are similar when on propane.
    Norcolds doc doesn't give any indication of what 'normal' operation of these things is supposed to be.
    Bottom line is this thing is a fuel hog regardless of what that fuel is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamFlyer View Post
    So I decided to track the temperature on our Norcold 2118 fridge and freezer and found some odd behavior. To the best of my knowledge, these models don't have a defrost cycle yet the data shows that approx every other day, it seems to go through a warm up cycle. It doesn't get warm enough to do any defrosting though.
    The data also shows that it's cooling cycle is usually quite a bit longer than its resting cycle which is something I have known for a while. We have gone through all the normal checks such as door seals, door flapper, etc. and they are fine.
    This data is all on 110V but results are similar when on propane.
    Norcolds doc doesn't give any indication of what 'normal' operation of these things is supposed to be.
    Bottom line is this thing is a fuel hog regardless of what that fuel is!
    -Rob-

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    According to my conversations with Norcold a year ago, the 2118 does have a defrost cycle roughly every 48 hours. On mine, it appears to be roughly 42 hours and lets the refrigerator warm up to the upper 40's. Norclod customer service person I spoke to quite literally told me "if it cooling below your outside temperature, it is working fine". He did finally tell me their internal spec was 43 F max temperature (FDA says 40 F is max safe temp ). I am not very pleased (nor happy) with the performance of the 2118.

    What are you measuring and recording the data with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoChris View Post
    What are you measuring and recording the data with?

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    AcuRite Access and remotes. We had it at our S&B and brought it with us when we went full time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KamFlyer View Post
    AcuRite Access and remotes. We had it at our S&B and brought it with us when we went full time.

    https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-01006...s%2C347&sr=8-5
    Thank you. That looks like a handy setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KamFlyer View Post
    So I decided to track the temperature on our Norcold 2118 fridge and freezer and found some odd behavior. To the best of my knowledge, these models don't have a defrost cycle yet the data shows that approx every other day, it seems to go through a warm up cycle. It doesn't get warm enough to do any defrosting though.
    The data also shows that it's cooling cycle is usually quite a bit longer than its resting cycle which is something I have known for a while. We have gone through all the normal checks such as door seals, door flapper, etc. and they are fine.
    This data is all on 110V but results are similar when on propane.
    Norcolds doc doesn't give any indication of what 'normal' operation of these things is supposed to be.
    Bottom line is this thing is a fuel hog regardless of what that fuel is!
    -Rob-

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    Would you mind sharing the data file that produced these graphs? I'd like to review the performance against the 2118 in my rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamFlyer View Post
    So I decided to track the temperature on our Norcold 2118 fridge and freezer and found some odd behavior. To the best of my knowledge, these models don't have a defrost cycle yet the data shows that approx every other day, it seems to go through a warm up cycle. It doesn't get warm enough to do any defrosting though.
    The data also shows that it's cooling cycle is usually quite a bit longer than its resting cycle which is something I have known for a while. We have gone through all the normal checks such as door seals, door flapper, etc. and they are fine.
    This data is all on 110V but results are similar when on propane.
    Norcolds doc doesn't give any indication of what 'normal' operation of these things is supposed to be.
    Bottom line is this thing is a fuel hog regardless of what that fuel is!
    -Rob-

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    At 3000 BTU for the burner, I wouldn't hardly consider that number being a fuel hog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraplx View Post
    Would you mind sharing the data file that produced these graphs? I'd like to review the performance against the 2118 in my rig.
    I don't have that data set any longer, but will try and get a new one tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrated View Post
    At 3000 BTU for the burner, I wouldn't hardly consider that number being a fuel hog.
    Well, when it burns through a 30# propane tank a week for just the fridge, that to me is a fuel hog.

    According to Norcold, this model >does< have a defrost cycle that runs approx. every 48 hrs. It doesn't defrost the freezer though. All I can think of is it to defrost any ice on the refridge compartment evap fins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamFlyer View Post
    Well, when it burns through a 30# propane tank a week for just the fridge, that to me is a fuel hog.

    According to Norcold, this model >does< have a defrost cycle that runs approx. every 48 hrs. It doesn't defrost the freezer though. All I can think of is it to defrost any ice on the refridge compartment evap fins.
    A typical 30 lb cylinder of propane contains approx. 7 gallons of propane. Each gallon of propane will provide 91,000 BTUs. The total BTUs in a 30 lb tank is approx 637,000. Divide that number by 3000 BTUs and you get 212.33 hours. That number divided by 24 (hours in a day) would equal 8.84. So if the tank were full of propane, and the refrigerator has continuously and never shut off the entire time, it would take almost 9 days to empty that tank. So does your refrigerator run 24/7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamFlyer View Post
    I don't have that data set any longer, but will try and get a new one tomorrow.
    Here you go.

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