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    Yikes, 50 amp Surge Protectors!

    So I'm planning for the arrival of my new Reflection and I realized that my surge protector is only a 30 amp unit. I started searching for a 50 amp unit and I can't believe how expensive they are! Holly Cow!

    How many folks go without a surge protector?

    Anyone with links to a great deal on one?

    In the mean time, since it's not summer and I won't be running the A/C, I think I will just connect to the 30 amp post outlet and use my 30 amp surge protector for now. Thoughts?
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    I'm not sure what sites you looked at but I used amazon and found it for $344 http://smile.amazon.com/Progressive-...urge+protector

    I just installed it in my Momentum, it came from my TT I traded in. I feel for $344 to possible protect a $70K unit, then I am all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GD350M View Post
    I'm not sure what sites you looked at but I used amazon and found it for $344 http://smile.amazon.com/Progressive-...urge+protector

    I just installed it in my Momentum, it came from my TT I traded in. I feel for $344 to possible protect a $70K unit, then I am all in.
    I guess it's all relative because I think $345 is a bunch of money. It is an un-budgeted expense that I can't just run out and get, especially at this time of year. I'll survive but I still can't believe they're that expensive.
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    I totally agree that $345 is a big price to pay. It took me a couple of months looking at this unit and reading reviews and seeing what others did before I decided to go with it. I chose this one because it had remote display, EMS and was hard wired.

    My final deciding factor was after I looked at the cost to replace the AC or the fridge or even the TV if I had a surge run through the unit or lack of voltage supplied to the unit. My Furrion TV is new $799 on the website. A fridge is like $2000+ and AC are $1000 plus. All these things are not covered under warranty if it is a surge that destroyed it.

    Plus there is another surge unit out there that is hard wired, but the Progressive Industries has a lifetime warranty to them.

    Just my humble opinion on it.
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    I'm torn between a hard wired unit, like yours, or a portable unit like the 30 amp one I have. PPL's has the portable unit on sale until 1/2 for $279. That's a great deal. I do worry about it being stolen but I have had my 30 amp portable unit for years and it's never been stolen. I think for $300 though it is a different deal and very tempting to a thief. Decisions, decisions. I think if I wait to save up some money and go for the hard wired unit. As I said, in the mean time I can just connect to the 30 amp outlet on the post and use my 30 amp surge protector.

    I've never had a 50 amp RV so correct me if I'm wrong but the only thing I loose by connecting to 50 amp is running both A/C units at the same time?
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    Probably right that you would have difficulty running two A/C units on 30 amps.
    A 50 amp connection actually provides more than 3 times the power available on a 30 amp connection.
    This is because 30 amps is at 120 volts. 50 amps is at 240 volts = 100 amps at 120 volts.
    This also explains why the 50 amp surge protector is twice the price of the 30 amp version.

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    We chain ours to the post. Somebody could probably still steal it, but they'd have to work harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy's 5th Wheel View Post
    How many folks go without a surge protector? Thoughts?
    An interesting question. I don't have surge protection on my house. I don't have surge protection on my boat. Why would my RV shore power be more prone to a high voltage spike ?? It seems that the primary (only ?) source for this would be a lightning strike. My boating experience would tell me that low voltage (brown out) is much more likely and can be just as damaging. I would think that the ability of a "surge" protector to cut out under low voltage conditions might be its most important attribute.
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    Every piece of equipment in my house has a surge protector+battery backup. I'm of a small percentage that does this. But I believe that RV have a higher problem due to how campground poles are installed and maintained. Our houses stay on the same line thought their existent, where as the RV moves frequently. My .02 anyways
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    I have both the portable 30 amp protector left over from my last unit and a portable 50 amp that I purchased recently. I use the 30 with an adapter at state parks with only 30 amp service. For me it is just peace of mind.

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