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06-23-2020, 08:38 AM #1
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B&W 20K with Ford Puck question. . .
Quick question on my hitch install. I noticed that after turning the latch handles two of them feel like they rotate somewhat easily with a very slight amount of drag. When latched, the castle nut is a little bit loose (I can wiggle it with my finger). I cannot tighten the castle nut far enough to expose the next slot for the cotter pin. I called B&W and they want to send me some spacers to place between the puck and the bottom of the hitch base. This doesn't seem right to me as it would just mean the base wouldn't sit flat on the pucks. Anyone else run into this issue? Should the nuts be tight? Seems if I added a different thickness washer under the nut that might solve it. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!
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06-23-2020, 08:45 AM #2
Are you sure the nut should be tight? Typically castle nuts are finger tight and use a cotter pin to prevent rotation of the nut. It's the same way your trailer hub is held in place, finger tight castle nut with cotter pin. I dont have a B&W hitch, just thinking outloud.
My hitch does use the same concept and I have a Ford puck system. I have a slight drag when turning the latch, but it isnt enough drag that makes it hard to operate. That's pretty much what my installation manual instructed for proper fit, just a slight drag.
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06-23-2020, 08:59 AM #3
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Thanks for the quick reply! It's the "slight drag" part that's kinda tough to measure. There hitch base for sure feels solidly connected to the truck - I've tried wiggling the base with all my might and cannot feel any slop in the system. I'll try to send a video in a little bit. . . .
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06-23-2020, 09:06 AM #4
Sounds ok by your description, but again, I dont have a B&W so hopefully someone who does will chime in to let you know how the operation should be.
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06-23-2020, 10:23 AM #5
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Thanks! My dealer just reassured me the tech would look at it and ensure all is safe before we drive off.
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06-23-2020, 03:32 PM #6
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I have the B&W 25K# hitch with the Ford pucks. Two of the handles have the slight drag when locking them down. The other two I have to use a rubber mallet to get started, but then easy by hand the last 1/4 of the way.
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06-23-2020, 04:52 PM #7
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I would not use any type of spacers, that just seems like another area to cause issues. I occasionally have to tighten the castle nuts on my B&W Companion for the pucks. Sometimes it's a little too tight when lining up the cotter pin and a little too loose when backing off the nut to the next slot. Hope that makes sense but I just tighten to the next slot and put the cotter pin in. I'd rather have the arms a little tight than too loose. I rarely remove my hitch so the tighter arms don't bother me. I wouldn't over think it, pretty hard to mess up any B&W product. You would never be able to wiggle that hitch by hand but 4000 lbs of pin weight and 16.5K of weight will wiggle it around if it's too loose in the pucks!
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06-23-2020, 05:10 PM #8
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I'd rather have the arms a little tight than too loose.
On the spacers, I agree that smells like a bad idea. And yet that’s from the tech at B&W.
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06-23-2020, 10:50 PM #9
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I'm not a Ford guy, but I have the B&W with the GM puck system. My handles are a bit more than slight drag. What I do is wrap my fingers around the handle while putting downward pressure on the nut with my thumb. I can get the handles started, then at most a bump with the heel of my hand seats them. I can't see 1/6th of a turn to align the cotter pin making a loose nut too tight though. One suggestion might be to put a dab of grease on the lugs, or maybe buff some of the paint off the top of the puck?
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