Grand Design Imagine 2670 MK

[Silverado333]

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Here is a quote I received earlier this year

Wow!! Thanks for sharing that info - but did you pay the $31 or $42K?

Steve

[fmartinmn]

Wow!! Thanks for sharing that info - but did you pay the $31 or $42K?

Steve

Neither, we went with a 2970RL instead. the $31K was the actual selling price of that (2670) unit in the Minneapolis/St Paul market place at that time. With current nationwide inventory shortages, I am not sure what the current pricing might be. Best wishes, Frank.

[Gimpyknee]

Welcome.
I use the Equalizer, and have no issues with reaching 12% tongue weight.... In fact last trip was worried DW had set me up to be overweight.
We got our 2020 for $32k (Aug2019) including east coast delivery, 2nd AC, and the Equalizer.
We've spent a bunch since then...

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[Silverado333]

I've been looking at Dealer web sites and RV Trader for the 2670MK, locally and nationwide. In my immediate area, +/- 100 miles, I see them @ $42K+, which I won't be able to do. Then I've seen some say 800 miles away and they're $31-32K - which is right where I want to be.

I'm wondering if its worth my while to negotiate with that distant dealer, or wait for these rigs to arrive closer to home and see if they come closer to my terms? I understand no one can answer that question, and all I can do it ask - see what happens, I guess. But it is good to know that the dream is still alive. I just hope we can get this worked out soon!

Another question for those of you with more experience - with a 2019 Ram 3500 towing a 2670MK, do you see a air bag suspension needed for my truck? We're new to RV'ing and its been a very long time since I've done any towing - so my experience is low.

Which is why I'm here - LOL!

Thanks!
Steve

[Silverado333]

Welcome.
I use the Equalizer, and have no issues with reaching 12% tongue weight.... In fact last trip was worried DW had set me up to be overweight.
We got our 2020 for $32k (Aug2019) including east coast delivery, 2nd AC, and the Equalizer.
We've spent a bunch since then...

Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk

I like that overweight statement! I have a similar ailment - LOL!!
Steve

[Silverado333]

Welcome.
I use the Equalizer, and have no issues with reaching 12% tongue weight.... In fact last trip was worried DW had set me up to be overweight.
We got our 2020 for $32k (Aug2019) including east coast delivery, 2nd AC, and the Equalizer.
We've spent a bunch since then...

Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk

I like that overweight statement! I have a similar ailment - LOL!!
Steve

[sande005]

I've been looking at Dealer web sites and RV Trader for the 2670MK, locally and nationwide. In my immediate area, +/- 100 miles, I see them @ $42K+, which I won't be able to do. Then I've seen some say 800 miles away and they're $31-32K - which is right where I want to be.

I'm wondering if its worth my while to negotiate with that distant dealer, or wait for these rigs to arrive closer to home and see if they come closer to my terms? I understand no one can answer that question, and all I can do it ask - see what happens, I guess. But it is good to know that the dream is still alive. I just hope we can get this worked out soon!

Another question for those of you with more experience - with a 2019 Ram 3500 towing a 2670MK, do you see a air bag suspension needed for my truck? We're new to RV'ing and its been a very long time since I've done any towing - so my experience is low.

Which is why I'm here - LOL!

Thanks!
Steve

As Frank showed (we bought ours from the same dealer!) there is considerable room for negotiation. You are seeing what the dealers are listing at full mfg. price vs what others are showing at their asking price. Very likely, if you walked in the door of one nearby, their 42 would very, very quickly become in the 30's. Shipping to Washington will bump the price up a bit. If you have a set number, cash in hand, dealers are very prone to coming further down below their asking price to get close to your desired number. You can use quotes from others much further away as a negotiating tactic, if you are clear you have no qualms about driving for a better deal. It helps if you are 100% prepared to walk away if they don't get close enough. Some dealers are hard-and-fast on their final offer, some are much more flexible. Just like negotiating for a car, but the variation in the final price is even greater. Sometimes they don't come down below asking price, but will sweeten the deal by lowering the cost of add-ons. The sticking point, for you, is your timeline.

Unlikely you will need air bags. I have them on my F150 (from our old fifth), but never air them up. With a 3500, the odds are even lower. What is the payload capacity on the door sticker or the truck?

BTW - Gimpyknee notes a good point. If GD re-engineered to move the wheels back just a couple of inches, then the need for a ProPride to stop sway goes away. You might want to give GD a call, and talk to them about "I heard earlier models were too light on the tongue. What have you done in the latest models to correct that?" and see what they say.

[Silverado333]

As Frank showed (we bought ours from the same dealer!) there is considerable room for negotiation. You are seeing what the dealers are listing at full mfg. price vs what others are showing at their asking price. Very likely, if you walked in the door of one nearby, their 42 would very, very quickly become in the 30's. Shipping to Washington will bump the price up a bit. If you have a set number, cash in hand, dealers are very prone to coming further down below their asking price to get close to your desired number. You can use quotes from others much further away as a negotiating tactic, if you are clear you have no qualms about driving for a better deal. It helps if you are 100% prepared to walk away if they don't get close enough. Some dealers are hard-and-fast on their final offer, some are much more flexible. Just like negotiating for a car, but the variation in the final price is even greater. Sometimes they don't come down below asking price, but will sweeten the deal by lowering the cost of add-ons. The sticking point, for you, is your timeline.

Unlikely you will need air bags. I have them on my F150 (from our old fifth), but never air them up. With a 3500, the odds are even lower. What is the payload capacity on the door sticker or the truck?

BTW - Gimpyknee notes a good point. If GD re-engineered to move the wheels back just a couple of inches, then the need for a ProPride to stop sway goes away. You might want to give GD a call, and talk to them about "I heard earlier models were too light on the tongue. What have you done in the latest models to correct that?" and see what they say.

Again, great info!! I do intend to pay all cash, assuming the meet my budget.

Thanks again!

Steve

[Rovers]

I've been looking at Dealer web sites and RV Trader for the 2670MK, locally and nationwide. In my immediate area, +/- 100 miles, I see them @ $42K+, which I won't be able to do. Then I've seen some say 800 miles away and they're $31-32K - which is right where I want to be.

I'm wondering if its worth my while to negotiate with that distant dealer, or wait for these rigs to arrive closer to home and see if they come closer to my terms? I understand no one can answer that question, and all I can do it ask - see what happens, I guess. But it is good to know that the dream is still alive. I just hope we can get this worked out soon!

Another question for those of you with more experience - with a 2019 Ram 3500 towing a 2670MK, do you see a air bag suspension needed for my truck? We're new to RV'ing and its been a very long time since I've done any towing - so my experience is low.

Which is why I'm here - LOL!

Thanks!
Steve

The others have answered as far as prices from dealers and negotiating tips so I'll focus on your Ram truck question. I doubt you'll need any helper or air springs for your truck - the 1 ton's springs will be more than up to the task of towing a 2670MK. If you were contemplating a 5th wheel then you may look into rear spring supplements - but for the Imagine, spend your $'s on a good hitch (maybe a ProPride?) and other accessories. IMO you'll be fine.

Bob

[Silverado333]

The others have answered as far as prices from dealers and negotiating tips so I'll focus on your Ram truck question. I doubt you'll need any helper or air springs for your truck - the 1 ton's springs will be more than up to the task of towing a 2670MK. If you were contemplating a 5th wheel then you may look into rear spring supplements - but for the Imagine, spend your $'s on a good hitch (maybe a ProPride?) and other accessories. IMO you'll be fine.

Bob

Quite a number of folks really seem to prefer the ProPride!! I have looked into them - They ain't cheap!!! If my calculations are correct, I'd be looking at a 3P-800. Just wondering, and don't misinterpret this as a bottomless wallet, but would it be wiser for me to jump up to one of the heavier duty hitches (assuming I were to buy that hitch) like the 3P-1000? Just in case we decided in a year or two, or three that we wanted a bigger trailer, say jump up to a Reflection?? I guess what I'm saying is if I buy the heavier duty one now for a few hundred bucks now versus another $3K later.

Oh, and also - Would I buy the hitch thru the Trailer Dealer, or from ProPride and bring it with me at the time of TT purchase?

Thanks!
Steve