Pocket door 31MB

[Rgkeaney]

Hi folks. Just got home with my 2020 31MB...our first RV from Grand Design. Drove it home to Colorado from Kansas. I fully expect to have issues, this is my 4th camping trailer over the years. And I plan to fix what I can as I have learned not to trust the ability of these dealer service departments. I trust my fixes.

When I got home, I found that the pocket door to the mid bunk (the door that is build into the wall) was sagging when the door is completely open and secured. The door is meant to be secured in the full open position when traveling. Does anyone know how that track is attached to the frame INSIDE the wall? I ask because i was on etrailer and it appears that they sell tracks with screws available in the open part but then they dont actually screw into the frame from inside the wall. Does any of that make sense

In essence, what I think happened is that the highway bounding bent the track on the INSIDE of the wall, resulting in the sagging door when fully opened. Otherwise, the screws inside the wall that hold up the track pulled away from the top frame.

I have no idea how to get to that track inside the wall without actually removing the paneling. However, if the pocket rail is truly just held up by the screws which I can get to from the opening, then I can replace the bent/broken track myself.

Hope that makes sense. Does anyone know for sure how that track is attached to the top frame of the pocket door?


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[Lloydrb]

The screws came out of the track on the bathroom door on our 31MB as well. I can get the door off but I'm not able to get my arm and tool inside the wall to replace screws. Any help on these issues is greatly appreciated.

[gbkims]

The screws came out of the track on the bathroom door on our 31MB as well. I can get the door off but I'm not able to get my arm and tool inside the wall to replace screws. Any help on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Only thing I can think of is having to remove some part of the wall paneling to access the screws.
I tracked down the PNs for 2020 31MB and appears the tracks are still based on www.johnsonhardware.com 1500 track as my 2015's pocket door is.

2020 Reflection 31MB
https://www.granddesignrv.com/owner-...ts/detail/2056
660043 : TRACK-POCKET DOOR TRACK-48"

https://www.granddesignrv.com/owner-...ts/detail/2057
660044 : TRACK-POCKET DOOR ROLLERS
Image is tagged: PDH-H1020

PDH-H1020 Pocket Door Hardware Hanger 1020 With 3/4 Inch Diameter Wheels
https://johnsonhardware.com/2-x-4-wa...et-door-frames
https://johnsonhardware.com/Content/...500CatPage.pdf
http://www.rvlocksandmore.com/PDH-H1020
http://www.gld1.com/Global-Sourcing-...rs_2/PDH-H1020

Model: PDH-T111-48-AL Pocket Door Hardware Track 111 48 Inch Aluminum
http://www.gld1.com/Global-Sourcing-...PDH-T111-48-AL
The Rollers used with this track are our PDH-H1020

[Rgkeaney]

Only thing I can think of is having to remove some part of the wall paneling to access the screws.
I tracked down the PNs for 2020 31MB and appears the tracks are still based on www.johnsonhardware.com 1500 track as my 2015's pocket door is.

2020 Reflection 31MB
https://www.granddesignrv.com/owner-...ts/detail/2056
660043 : TRACK-POCKET DOOR TRACK-48"

https://www.granddesignrv.com/owner-...ts/detail/2057
660044 : TRACK-POCKET DOOR ROLLERS
Image is tagged: PDH-H1020

PDH-H1020 Pocket Door Hardware Hanger 1020 With 3/4 Inch Diameter Wheels
https://johnsonhardware.com/2-x-4-wa...et-door-frames
https://johnsonhardware.com/Content/...500CatPage.pdf
http://www.rvlocksandmore.com/PDH-H1020
http://www.gld1.com/Global-Sourcing-...rs_2/PDH-H1020

Model: PDH-T111-48-AL Pocket Door Hardware Track 111 48 Inch Aluminum
http://www.gld1.com/Global-Sourcing-...PDH-T111-48-AL
The Rollers used with this track are our PDH-H1020

Having to remove part of the wall is my fear. I cannot imaging the local service department being able to do this and do it well without screwing up the wall. I may not have an option since this will clearly be warranty work. Thanks for your insight.

[Lloydrb]

Thanks for the help and all the info. I just need to figure out how to get the last two screws into the track in such a tight area. I borrowed a small drill / driver and going to ask someone with smaller arms than I have to do the work. I’ll let you know how it goes.

[gbkims]

Thanks for the help and all the info. I just need to figure out how to get the last two screws into the track in such a tight area. I borrowed a small drill / driver and going to ask someone with smaller arms than I have to do the work. I’ll let you know how it goes.

I know I can just get my hand in a ways into the pocket door opening. Checked the wife's slender arm, I've only got an inch or two longer reach than her's.
I wonder if my M12 right angle drill would fit in, it's ~2" wide and would give a bit more reach.

[Lloydrb]

Gotter done. There were no screws ever put in the two rail holes furthest inside the pocket. The screw in the third hole fell out. I ended up installing the thickest screws I could fit in the holes I could reach in the track. I couldn’t reach the furthest hole in so I got a thick self tapping screw and put in as far as I could reach. (Sorry I don’t have screw sizes). The door hangs perfect and the track won’t drop again. It’s tight work but can be done by spreading the walls apart. Someone there to spread the walls while you put screws in really helps. Try before cutting the walls!!!!

[Rgkeaney]

Gotter done. There were no screws ever put in the two rail holes furthest inside the pocket. The screw in the third hole fell out. I ended up installing the thickest screws I could fit in the holes I could reach in the track. I couldn’t reach the furthest hole in so I got a thick self tapping screw and put in as far as I could reach. (Sorry I don’t have screw sizes). The door hangs perfect and the track won’t drop again. It’s tight work but can be done by spreading the walls apart. Someone there to spread the walls while you put screws in really helps. Try before cutting the walls!!!!

Did you use the same rail? Was it bent but your self tapping screws allowed you to get it pulled back flush?


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[Lloydrb]

Yes I did get it flush. The rail was pulled down but not actually bent. Bowed would be more accurate. I was able to get one screw into the hole second from the end of the rail and the self tapping screw as close to the end as I could. The mount holding the weight of the door doesn’t go to the end of the rail anyway. It’s about 4” to 6” in. My concern was roller clearance under the screw heads. No problem there.

[red_neck_camper]

yep, been there, done that. The bathroom pocket door on my 31MB sagged. Furtherest screw in had stripped. Replaced with a bigger screw. As Lloyd described, you can bend those flimsy walls outward at the opening to get more of your arm in to fix the screw. I did it by myself, but it's better to have help.

Ken