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03-11-2015, 10:15 AM #1james quinnGuest
Canadian Standards
For a 313RLTS, I am looking for information on specific differences between a standard unit and one built to CSA standards (QAI inspected). If anybody knows what they are I would appreciate the info. I don't seem to have luck getting the information from GDRV. Thanx
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03-12-2015, 01:47 PM #2
Hi James,
An intensely discussed topic amongst many Canadians living close to border points with the US. To be fair, our GD dealer (in Canada) was much more even-handed in discussing this topic than other RV dealers that I talked to. Some of the scare tactics used by Canadian RV dealers to dissuade customers from buying in the US are laughable. Their refusal to do warranty work on these coaches is less humorous.
To the specifics of your question . . . I can only offer what I see on my purchased-in-Canada 5th wheel. It would be interesting to put it side-by-side with a US unit to see how much difference there really is. I can't believe that GD has different bins of parts, boxes of appliances and spools of wire for Canadian vs US products.
Some of the labelling is English/French but not all of it.
Almost all of the component literature notes that these devices meet CSA standards.
I had reason to take apart an electrical outlet and noticed the CSA logo inside.
The axles have both UL and CSA on the labels.
It will take input from someone who took delivery of their GD product in the US, to know if there is any difference.
RobCate & Rob
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03-12-2015, 02:25 PM #3
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I believe I heard once from a reputable source, that the difference is a bonded/unbonded neutral wire in the electrical system.
I am not an electrician so this is just what I heard and I couldn't tell you the difference.
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03-12-2015, 03:18 PM #4
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I don't expect that you'll get a direct answer from GD or any other manufacturer due to their policies encouraging to buy locally, particularly Canadian customers.
DaveDave and Monica - Gore Bay, Ontario
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03-12-2015, 03:33 PM #5
Hi Derek,
Interesting input ! I can't believe either country standards would want/allow a bonded neutral (white wire connected to green wire) anywhere in the trailer wiring. This should only happen at the source of the power. I will check this out on our Reflection.
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03-12-2015, 04:03 PM #6
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03-12-2015, 04:24 PM #7james quinnGuest
Difference as per GD is glue on plumbing and electrical wiring. Glue is may be synchronized shortly but electrical wiring not yet. USA wiring is wrapped in paper inside whereas Canadian wiring is vinyl wrapped. Electrical inspection appears to accept but my suspicion is that CSA may not like the paper for issues such as flamability/smoke or insulation qualities...just a guess though. Personally it's worth the extra little to not have grief on the road, but others may differ.
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