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    351M-R and Ram 2500 Cummins

    Hello all.

    This is my first post on this site. Have done some research as to what is already posted on this forum in regards to this new thread. Just trying to make an informed decision on whether to upgrade my tow vehicle. We just made a down payment on a 2021 351M-R. Our present tow vehicle is a 2017 Ram 2500 with Cummins turbo diesel, crew cab, short bed. The vehicle is equipped with the air ride system on the rear axle. The tire loading sticker on the driver side door says cargo should not exceed 1943lbs. I know the pin weight of this is 2785. Yes, I see a problem even though I will be within the Max trailer weight of 17,210. TV base weight is 7617. The salesman at the rv dealership assured me we have enough truck to pull this trailer. However, after researching further (and it is clearly my bad for not doing more research before purchase) I am questioning whether I have enough truck to do this. So, before I run out and start looking for another tv, I would like to hear from those who may have gone through the same thing and what your experience has been with this match up of tv and hauler.
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    Upgrade your tow vehicle. That 2,785 pin weight you quote is empty/dry and the 351M will put about 3,800 lbs. on the pin when loaded - well into 1-ton territory.

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    +2 upgrade your truck.
    I'm sure your truck 'can' pull the trailer, doesnt mean it's a good idea or safe. I'd bet you will be over axle rating for sure. The majority of RV and auto sales personnel will tell you whatever you need to hear to make that purchase, they are not educated in towing by any means. Some dealers are better than others though and do care. Lazy Days in Tampa made me send pictures of my truck stickers showing the capacities before we finalized the deal (we did everything remote as I was 1000 miles away). My first time going to the dealer was for delivery.

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    Upgrade the truck. And then tell your salesperson that he owes you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snicker1973 View Post
    Hello all.

    This is my first post on this site. Have done some research as to what is already posted on this forum in regards to this new thread. Just trying to make an informed decision on whether to upgrade my tow vehicle. We just made a down payment on a 2021 351M-R. Our present tow vehicle is a 2017 Ram 2500 with Cummins turbo diesel, crew cab, short bed. The vehicle is equipped with the air ride system on the rear axle. The tire loading sticker on the driver side door says cargo should not exceed 1943lbs. I know the pin weight of this is 2785. Yes, I see a problem even though I will be within the Max trailer weight of 17,210. TV base weight is 7617. The salesman at the rv dealership assured me we have enough truck to pull this trailer. However, after researching further (and it is clearly my bad for not doing more research before purchase) I am questioning whether I have enough truck to do this. So, before I run out and start looking for another tv, I would like to hear from those who may have gone through the same thing and what your experience has been with this match up of tv and hauler.
    90-95% of sales people will convince you they have the "right" answer for the sale. You have to research on your own.

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    My 351MR Has 3100lbs pin weight with 1400 to 1500lbs in garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannon07 View Post
    My 351MR Has 3100lbs pin weight with 1400 to 1500lbs in garage.
    What do you tow with?

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    Welcome to the forum, and yes you are in 1 ton territory, ahhhh you might want to look at the dually and even though the new 1 ton truck have a payload of about 4,200lbs to 4,500lbs you might can get away with one of those, mininum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snicker1973 View Post
    What do you tow with?
    Tow vehicle F350 DWR. I'm currently looking at a 2021 GMC 3500 SWR that has a 4000lb cargo capacity but that's still close to max after you add people in cab and maybe a tool box or fuel tank in bed.
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    2021 351MR
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    Quote Originally Posted by snicker1973 View Post
    Hello all.

    This is my first post on this site. Have done some research as to what is already posted on this forum in regards to this new thread. Just trying to make an informed decision on whether to upgrade my tow vehicle. We just made a down payment on a 2021 351M-R. Our present tow vehicle is a 2017 Ram 2500 with Cummins turbo diesel, crew cab, short bed. The vehicle is equipped with the air ride system on the rear axle. The tire loading sticker on the driver side door says cargo should not exceed 1943lbs. I know the pin weight of this is 2785. Yes, I see a problem even though I will be within the Max trailer weight of 17,210. TV base weight is 7617. The salesman at the rv dealership assured me we have enough truck to pull this trailer. However, after researching further (and it is clearly my bad for not doing more research before purchase) I am questioning whether I have enough truck to do this. So, before I run out and start looking for another tv, I would like to hear from those who may have gone through the same thing and what your experience has been with this match up of tv and hauler.
    I see your 2021 shows Max 17,210. My 2021 shows Max 16,800 Must be the new H rated tires. Mine was a May build date with G rated.
    2021 351MR
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