vaccination

**Fsalmy** · 02-25-2021, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by NB Canada

Btw why is ivermectin being shoved down the rabbit hole so quickly when it has proven efficacy?

I suspect for the same reasons as HCQ. Latest published research study supports use of HCQ early in the disease process. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02934320306732

Newsweek fact checkers have already called this "false". However, I fact check their fact check as false. Newsweek manipulated the "fact" by asking, "Did The American Journal of Medicine Recommend Hydroxychloroquine for COVID? Fact Check: False." Well, of course AJOM did not endorse HCQ as a treatment for COVID. It is rare that a journal ever does advocate one way or another, and if so, it would be done by the editors of the journal as an opinion. But the authors of the article did recommend the use of HCQ. And that is true no matter how Newsweek or anyone else spins it. You just have to read the whole article. Which Newsweek and their fact checkers

know 99% of their readers won't do.

Also note that if there is an approved therapeutic to specifically treat disease X, then in most cases, an emergency use authorization for a vaccine still in clinical trials (or for any other therapeutic for that matter) cannot be granted. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it either.

**Fsalmy** · 02-25-2021, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dive Bar Casanova

Sepsis and pneumonia kill you while the Covid tricks your immune system into attacking itself.
You may survive but sepsis leaves you with:
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I'm sure it was just an oversight on your part in trying to tie the photo of the rare effects of meninigococcal meningitis with the rare secondary sepsis of COVID. Yep. Found the photo you posted in a 2019 Fox News story about a woman in the UK -
"Kent was rushed to Northampton General Hospital where she was treated for meningococcal meningitis, but the infection had turned septic and began causing her organs to shut down, she said. She spent the next several weeks fighting for her life as doctors warned her family to prepare for the worst." https://www.foxnews.com/health/mom-l...ms-common-cold

I've sat around long enough reading false posts, false information, fear mongering and panic porn without standing for the truth. No more. I'm going to call it out when I see it. Truth matters. If you don't like it, ignore me, block me or ban me. But enough is enough.

So, anyone got recommendations for a fifth wheel suitable for a family with teenagers??

**NB Canada** · 02-25-2021, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Fsalmy

I suspect for the same reasons as HCQ. Latest published research study supports use of HCQ early in the disease process. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...02934320306732

Newsweek fact checkers have already called this "false". However, I fact check their fact check as false. Newsweek manipulated the "fact" by asking, "Did The American Journal of Medicine Recommend Hydroxychloroquine for COVID? Fact Check: False." Well, of course AJOM did not endorse HCQ as a treatment for COVID. It is rare that a journal ever does advocate one way or another, and if so, it would be done by the editors of the journal as an opinion. But the authors of the article did recommend the use of HCQ. And that is true no matter how Newsweek or anyone else spins it. You just have to read the whole article. Which Newsweek and their fact checkers

know 99% of their readers won't do.

Also note that if there is an approved therapeutic to specifically treat disease X, then in most cases, an emergency use authorization for a vaccine still in clinical trials (or for any other therapeutic for that matter) cannot be granted. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it either.

Unfortunately I don’t think many that are lining up for this experiment realize that it technically has not been formally approved. Only for emergency use

I never connected that if a proven therapy was used the emergency use approval ends
Thank you. That makes it crystal clear now what is really going on

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**[email protected]** · 02-25-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by NB Canada

Unfortunately I don’t think many that are lining up for this experiment realize that it technically has not been formally approved. Only for emergency use

I never connected that if a proven therapy was used the emergency use approval ends
Thank you. That makes it crystal clear now what is really going on

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2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

I'll get my shot when they mail it to me and I can fill out the paperwork and send it back in. They are taking about making it mandatory if you want to travel or fly. After all if I can fill out in election form to vote for a president. I should be able fill out a form and give myself a shot like millions of diabetic people do regularly. That should be good enough, right?

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**Fsalmy** · 02-25-2021, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by [email protected]

I'll get my shot when they mail it to me and I can fill out the paperwork and send it back in. They are taking about making it mandatory if you want to travel or fly. After all if I can fill out in election form to vote for a president. I should be able fill out a form and give myself a shot like millions of diabetic people do regularly. That should be good enough, right?

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In theory, can't mandate a vaccine or therapeutic when under emergency use authorization. Requires full regulatory agency approval. However, there is immense pressure in some organizations to get vaccinated. See: UK NHS pressuring all medical staff to get vaccinated.

**bertschb** · 02-25-2021, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Fsalmy

I've sat around long enough reading false posts, false information, fear mongering and panic porn...

It is interesting to see how people are affected by the fear and panic. I'm amazed how widespread it is. Wearing masks while hiking/biking on backcountry trails- while alone. Wearing a mask while driving alone in a car. I wonder if these people wear masks while they sleep alone in bed?

Originally Posted by Fsalmy

So, anyone got recommendations for a fifth wheel suitable for a family with teenagers??

Most people recommend a bunkhouse for kids. If I had kids, I'd get a Momentum toyhauler with a rear full bathroom and let the kids have the garage. The garage can be ordered with a drop-down bed as well as couches that transform into "beds". A door separates the rear garage from the rest of the rig. Kids can sleep in, stay up late, watch TV and trash their own living space (and bathroom) without affecting the adults.

**Fsalmy** · 02-25-2021, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by bertschb

It is interesting to see how people are affected by the fear and panic. I'm amazed how widespread it is. Wearing masks while hiking/biking on backcountry trails- while alone. Wearing a mask while driving alone in a car. I wonder if these people wear masks while they sleep alone in bed?

https://youtu.be/2DDXG-dHugc

**NB Canada** · 02-25-2021, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Fsalmy

https://youtu.be/2DDXG-dHugc

Love it. Thanks

Sums it all up

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2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

**Rgkeaney** · 02-25-2021, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Fsalmy

I'm sure it was just an oversight on your part in trying to tie the photo of the rare effects of meninigococcal meningitis with the rare secondary sepsis of COVID. Yep. Found the photo you posted in a 2019 Fox News story about a woman in the UK -
"Kent was rushed to Northampton General Hospital where she was treated for meningococcal meningitis, but the infection had turned septic and began causing her organs to shut down, she said. She spent the next several weeks fighting for her life as doctors warned her family to prepare for the worst." https://www.foxnews.com/health/mom-l...ms-common-cold

I've sat around long enough reading false posts, false information, fear mongering and panic porn without standing for the truth. No more. I'm going to call it out when I see it. Truth matters. If you don't like it, ignore me, block me or ban me. But enough is enough.

So, anyone got recommendations for a fifth wheel suitable for a family with teenagers??

We love our 31 MB. Separate room for the youth to take over and do with as they want. Just keep the doors closed and don’t break anything is my request.

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**Scott'n'Wendy** · 02-25-2021, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by bertschb

It is interesting to see how people are affected by the fear and panic. I'm amazed how widespread it is. Wearing masks while hiking/biking on backcountry trails- while alone. Wearing a mask while driving alone in a car. I wonder if these people wear masks while they sleep alone in bed?

A lot of psychology at work. People do need to be aware. But the news is nearly constant on the subject. With the constant hammering of the message, a certain percentage of the population will go, well, a little crazy with it. I see it at work all day. Some people don't give a crap (not good), most are fine, follow reasonable precautions etc (good), some are freaked out, afraid of others (not good). The former and the latter get the news coverage.