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    Another can I tow it thread.....sorry

    I’ve wrapped my head around this and searched and searched so if this is just another can I tow it thread I’ll ask for forgiveness now.

    Looking at a 5er that is 13,500 unloaded with a cargo capacity for 3100 lbs.

    Looking to get a 2021 3500HD SRW

    I’ll admit have my worries on the SRW truck and I think I’m seriously on the edge with it. The issue is the GCWR is within 700lbs of the max and payload numbers that I’m seeing online for the trailer. Trailer says online 3100 lbs

    Can anyone give me some advice on this.

    My wife can’t stand the truck but my other option is getting a 2021 F450. Now before everyone just says get the dually I just wanna make sure the SRW can’t tow it safely.

    The wife first and foremost wants to be safe but the DRW is a lot more truck than she wanted to drive around town if she has to.

    She wants whatever will keep us safe but was hoping it was the SRW

    Thanks
    Last edited by Chad1383; 02-08-2021 at 07:37 PM.

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    Tell her women look sexy driving duallys. All the firemen will look her way. Well it worked for me LOL.

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    We will have a heavier camper and will pull it with 2021 Ford King Ranch 350, not a dually. I don’t like them and my husband is not crazy about them either. It’s a preference thing. Safety is important so due diligence is important. Good luck and safe travels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad1383 View Post
    - I’ll admit have my worries on the SRW truck and I think I’m seriously on the edge with it.
    - My wife can’t stand the truck
    - My other option is getting a 2021 F450.
    - The wife first and foremost wants to be safe
    - She wants whatever will keep us safe but was hoping it was the SRW
    I think you answered your own question! You will have none of those concerns with an F-450. The F-450 will give you plenty of capacity and there isn't anything much safer to tow with.
    Brian & Kellie
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    2016 Reflection 318RST, 2016 GMC 3500 Denali SRW Duramax, Hensley BD3 air bag hitch

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    F350 dually gives you a safer sticker...LOL
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    I just drove to the dealer to look at the actual sticker of the truck I was gonna buy and the payload was listed online as 4185 and the actual sticker says 3800. I'm sitting at 3900 right now without anything else in the bed ie: tools etc....
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    Ignore empty weights and cargo capacity - use GVWR from the trailer's sticker (or GVWR from on-line). Get all the numbers off the truck sticker, too, then enter the data here:

    http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-...eight-fw.shtml

    Also go to YouTube and search on "understanding payload and towing capacity" - there are a number of good videos to watch on the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Chance View Post
    Ignore empty weights and cargo capacity - use GVWR from the trailer's sticker (or GVWR from on-line). Get all the numbers off the truck sticker, too, then enter the data here:

    http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-...eight-fw.shtml

    Also go to YouTube and search on "understanding payload and towing capacity" - there are a number of good videos to watch on the topic.

    Rob
    Thanks for this. Basically everything I’m looking up is telling me the 2021 3500HD 6.5 box 4x4 will not tow a 16,000 lb loaded trailer. And it’s all coming down to payload. The 3500HD just doesn’t have the payload to not be over weight. The 20% rule says my payload on just the pin weight would be 3300 lbs before any other add one like people, hitch weight etc. The door sticker says the truck has a 3800 lb payload. 300 shy of what I found on GMC website as I’m sure the added payload number was for a different trim truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad1383 View Post
    ...300 shy of what I found on GMC website as I’m sure the added payload number was for a different trim truck.
    The manufacturers list payload numbers in their documentation for their most stripped down models because they are the lightest and will result in the highest ratings. Two wheel drive, single cab, gas engine, no options, etc.
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    Previous setups:
    2019 Solitude 373FB-R, 2019 F-350 Platinum DRW Powerstroke, Hensley BD5 air bag hitch
    2016 Reflection 318RST, 2016 GMC 3500 Denali SRW Duramax, Hensley BD3 air bag hitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by el Rojo View Post
    Tell her women look sexy driving duallys. All the firemen will look her way. Well it worked for me LOL.

    Red
    I seriously LOL at that! In truth, my wife drives our 4X4 CC LB dually as her daily driver and loves driving it, especially around Prius's (or is it Prii?), she threatens to use them as a speedbump. Anyway, @Chad1383 you seem to be bumping at the threshhold of a dually, and nothing beats the towing stability of a dually. Having said that if you can find a SRW with enough cargo capacity you'll be okay. On a scale of safe...safer...safest, you'd be somwhere between safe and safer. Again, safest would be the dually.

    John
    Last edited by LV Naturist; 02-09-2021 at 02:32 PM.
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