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    Levling questions and help needed

    Anybody,

    I am a new owner of a Reflection 150 260rd. Was playing around with my new RV with manual in hand, and was on the page of leveling. When I was using the auto-levling feature and that the leveling system did lift one of the RV's tires off the ground, which according to the manual is a major no no !!!! Reverted everything back to the hitch mode, and started over. Mind you, the RV was sitting on a semi-level piece of cement (driveway). Tried the self-leveling system again and noticed the same thing happening. I did read that the RV HAD to be level before the movement of the slide-out. Below are the current steps am I doing to setup my new RV.

    1. Park the RV.
    2. unhitch the camper from the truck.
    3. put blocks under leveling jacks.
    4. Connect power from RV to house or campsite power.
    5. Start the self leveling system ( level RV )
    6. With camper level, proceed to move slide-out into position.
    7. Open up camper, put awning out and etc.
    8. Enjoy new RV

    With the above being said, is there something I am missing in my leveling process or is there more to leveling that I should do? Should I being doing the leveling manually first, or leveling front to back or side to side first then using the auto-leveling system? The manual itself did NOT say either way. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
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    Step zero should be "use leveling 'boards' under the tires to achieve side to side level as close as possible"
    These things work better when you are close to level to begin with, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanmi96 View Post
    Anybody,

    I am a new owner of a Reflection 150 260rd. Was playing around with my new RV with manual in hand, and was on the page of leveling. When I was using the auto-levling feature and that the leveling system did lift one of the RV's tires off the ground, which according to the manual is a major no no !!!! Reverted everything back to the hitch mode, and started over. Mind you, the RV was sitting on a semi-level piece of cement (driveway). Tried the self-leveling system again and noticed the same thing happening. I did read that the RV HAD to be level before the movement of the slide-out. Below are the current steps am I doing to setup my new RV.

    1. Park the RV.
    2. unhitch the camper from the truck.
    3. put blocks under leveling jacks.
    4. Connect power from RV to house or campsite power.
    5. Start the self leveling system ( level RV )
    6. With camper level, proceed to move slide-out into position.
    7. Open up camper, put awning out and etc.
    8. Enjoy new RV

    With the above being said, is there something I am missing in my leveling process or is there more to leveling that I should do? Should I being doing the leveling manually first, or leveling front to back or side to side first then using the auto-leveling system? The manual itself did NOT say either way. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
    I find the most common mistake is trying to use auto leveling while not leaving enough room in the front jacks for the auto leveling to fully adjust without raising the rear up off the ground. Recommend not pulling the adjustable pin on the front jacks more than 5 holes down. The more it can adjust in the front the less adjusting by the rear is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanmi96 View Post
    Anybody,

    I am a new owner of a Reflection 150 260rd. Was playing around with my new RV with manual in hand, and was on the page of leveling. When I was using the auto-levling feature and that the leveling system did lift one of the RV's tires off the ground, which according to the manual is a major no no !!!! Reverted everything back to the hitch mode, and started over. Mind you, the RV was sitting on a semi-level piece of cement (driveway). Tried the self-leveling system again and noticed the same thing happening. I did read that the RV HAD to be level before the movement of the slide-out. Below are the current steps am I doing to setup my new RV.

    1. Park the RV.
    2. unhitch the camper from the truck.
    3. put blocks under leveling jacks.
    4. Connect power from RV to house or campsite power.
    5. Start the self leveling system ( level RV )
    6. With camper level, proceed to move slide-out into position.
    7. Open up camper, put awning out and etc.
    8. Enjoy new RV

    With the above being said, is there something I am missing in my leveling process or is there more to leveling that I should do? Should I being doing the leveling manually first, or leveling front to back or side to side first then using the auto-leveling system? The manual itself did NOT say either way. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
    There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with your list except that it's missing the step that @J Maguire has wisely noted above.

    OTOH someone above has advised you to purchase wheel blocks to level your trailer's wheels before using auto-levelling. We've owned a Reflection and a Solitude (electric and hydraulic jacks) over several years and many camp sites and have never done this, even on uneven sites.

    Finally, it's possible for your leveling system to lose its memory of what "level" is, something that can happen when the controller loses power due to a dead battery or a disconnection. Once sufficient power is restored, the trailer is leveled using the jacks in manual mode and a construction level, and then the leveling system memory is reset following a simple procedure. (The procedure differs among the several Lippert systems so have a look on the Lippert web site for your system and the reset instructions specific to it.)

    Good luck.
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    Everyone,

    Thanks for all your advice on this. I will look into this alot more once the weather isn't sooooo cold. In really appreciate everyones help on this

    Thanks again

    Sean
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanmi96 View Post
    Anybody,

    I am a new owner of a Reflection 150 260rd. Was playing around with my new RV with manual in hand, and was on the page of leveling. When I was using the auto-levling feature and that the leveling system did lift one of the RV's tires off the ground, which according to the manual is a major no no !!!! Reverted everything back to the hitch mode, and started over. Mind you, the RV was sitting on a semi-level piece of cement (driveway). Tried the self-leveling system again and noticed the same thing happening. I did read that the RV HAD to be level before the movement of the slide-out. Below are the current steps am I doing to setup my new RV.

    1. Park the RV.
    2. unhitch the camper from the truck.
    3. put blocks under leveling jacks.
    4. Connect power from RV to house or campsite power.
    5. Start the self leveling system ( level RV )
    6. With camper level, proceed to move slide-out into position.
    7. Open up camper, put awning out and etc.
    8. Enjoy new RV

    With the above being said, is there something I am missing in my leveling process or is there more to leveling that I should do? Should I being doing the leveling manually first, or leveling front to back or side to side first then using the auto-leveling system? The manual itself did NOT say either way. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
    Here's how we do it:

    1. Park rig
    2. Place landing pads/blocks, wood under wheels, if necessary on low side.
    3. Drop landing gear (front jacks) to raise trailer off hitch. Unhitch and drive truck away.
    4. Auto-level.
    5. When auto level complete, open trailer door and load in stuff we carried in truck.
    6. Put slides out, make electrical, plumbing connections, set up inside/outside stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanmi96 View Post
    Anybody,

    I am a new owner of a Reflection 150 260rd. Was playing around with my new RV with manual in hand, and was on the page of leveling. When I was using the auto-levling feature and that the leveling system did lift one of the RV's tires off the ground, which according to the manual is a major no no !!!! Reverted everything back to the hitch mode, and started over. Mind you, the RV was sitting on a semi-level piece of cement (driveway). Tried the self-leveling system again and noticed the same thing happening. I did read that the RV HAD to be level before the movement of the slide-out. Below are the current steps am I doing to setup my new RV.

    1. Park the RV.
    2. unhitch the camper from the truck.
    3. put blocks under leveling jacks.
    4. Connect power from RV to house or campsite power.
    5. Start the self leveling system ( level RV )
    6. With camper level, proceed to move slide-out into position.
    7. Open up camper, put awning out and etc.
    8. Enjoy new RV

    With the above being said, is there something I am missing in my leveling process or is there more to leveling that I should do? Should I being doing the leveling manually first, or leveling front to back or side to side first then using the auto-leveling system? The manual itself did NOT say either way. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
    The levelling system (at least the hydraulic one) will sometimes lift a wheel off the ground to get level- perfectly normal.

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    It may be obvious but the lists above need to include chocking the wheels first.
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    If one side ends up with wheels off the ground and you are not comfortable with this situation, then the only cure is to place enough spacers under the airborne tires before activating autolevel, period. No way around that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandesigner View Post
    Step zero should be "use leveling 'boards' under the tires to achieve side to side level as close as possible"
    These things work better when you are close to level to begin with, lol
    Also put the same amount of blocking under the jacks on the same side.
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