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02-20-2021, 06:33 PM #21
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Copied from my truck's owner's manual. Notice the word "Must"
"The addition of trailer kingpin load weight, and the weight of passengers and cargo, must not cause vehicle weights to exceed the rear GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating) or GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). These ratings can be found on the vehicle’s Safety Compliance Certification LabeL”Last edited by CWSWine; 02-20-2021 at 06:36 PM.
Dennis & Ellie
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02-20-2021, 09:38 PM #22
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Carry Cap 2066# Tow Cap 9100# Truck 7050# GWVR
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02-21-2021, 10:32 AM #23
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Similar here. Bought a new 2017 F150 with 3.5 eco and max tow, trailer back up camera's etc. Then a new 2600RB in March of 2018 with a blue ox sway pro wdh. Truck pulled great but after 8 trips, I traded truck for a 250. The trailer is a huge wind sail and I did not enjoy the rides at all on any open highways.
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02-21-2021, 10:40 AM #24
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02-21-2021, 01:06 PM #25
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There is such small print in my tow vehicle’s insurance or in the coverage for my RV (also by a major RV insurance company). There are page after page of exclusions but there is no mention of weight limits.
In my state, vehicle liability coverage as well as collision and comprehensive coverage for my tow vehicle, are provided by the insurance for the tow vehicle, not the RV insurance company. The RV insurance just covers the RV itself.
Insurance company’s have little choice regarding liability coverage if they insure your vehicle. They can’t just claim they’re not paying because you were overweight. Being overweight just ain’t that much different than speeding, bald tires, worn out brakes, running a stop sign, etc. Insurance companies liability coverage is not subject to the whims and wishes of the insurance company. They are licensed by the state and they confirm to the state that you are indeed covered. They can choose not to insure you, but once they do, they are on the hook up to the stated liability limits of the policy.
That being said, I am no fan of being overweight or towing beyond the stated limits of the vehicles.
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02-21-2021, 01:21 PM #26
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We have a 2017 Silverado 1500 with 6.2L and 3.23 axle ratio with blue ox WD hitch. I have no issues what so ever towing the 2600RB. Have yet to experience the tail wagging the dog. We get a little over 11 mpg towing at 65 mph and could easily significanty exceed that speed if we chose to. We also get over 21 mph at 65 mph when not towing. In tow haul mode the engine provides significant engine braking.
Would prefer a 2500 but hubby is not be happy climbing in or out of one.
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02-21-2021, 04:42 PM #27
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This is exactly what I meant by the physics of the setup. A great deal of it is more than cargo capacity and max towing capability. The heavier vehicle has the control when it comes to starting, stopping, and acceleration. Just a reminder, acceleration can take place in any direction. Forward (gas), reverse (brake), side to side (wind) and centripetal (circular) during a turn. The 3/4 ton truck is heavier, has sturdier suspension, built in brake controllers with automatic sway reduction and adjustment for weight of trailer and brake types.
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Previous: 2005 Minnie Winnie Class C towing 2014 Mini Cooper Countryman S (both 4 sale)
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02-21-2021, 05:18 PM #28
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I would love to see the exact numbers that my 1500 at 5500 lbs vs a 2500 at 6300 lbs makes a difference
I can’t see 800 lbs making starting,stopping and control that big a difference hmmmm. Maybe
My 1500 has built in brake control. I think most do
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02-21-2021, 06:18 PM #29
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I’ll let others weigh in, here but most 1/2 ton trucks do not have built in break controllers while more 3/4 and 1 ton trucks do. Again, the difference is a combination of things and anyone who has gone from a 1/2 ton coming close to its limits to a 3/4 ton pulling that same load will tell you the same thing. It makes a world of difference having a beefier tow vehicle in every way.
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02-21-2021, 07:19 PM #30
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Well that is a never ending statement you could make about anything
I am sure all the 2500 guys on here would benefit from a 3500 and I am sure plenty of 3500 guys could benefit from a medium duty Volvo
I can’t imagine a noticeable difference for me I have tons of power,braking and can drive the highway with a couple of fingers on the wheel but I would definitely notice a “heavier” truck the other 360 days of the year I am not towing
YMMV
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