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    2021 Reflection with Furrion tankless water heater.

    My wife and I traveled to Lazydays RV in Nashville today to look at the 337RLS that we think we have settled on.

    While inspecting the bathroom, I noticed a digital gas water heater panel.

    Upon inspection of all 7 Reflections onsite, they are all equipped with Furrion tankless hot water heaters.
    The build sheet does not have this as an upgrade option, so it looks like it is standard on all 2021 Reflections.

    Now I am researching tankless heaters on RVs to see if I want to take on a first generation implementation like this.

    Anyone else seen this? We finally settled on the Reflection and this was a surprise when looking in person.

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    2021 Reflection 337RLS, Reese 16K Goosebox, B&W ball with factory Ford Puck system
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    Also...Thinking thru the operation, I would assume that one would burn thru propane much faster using this option.
    I am researching, but I assume that gas is used to heat the water fast enough.
    If so, the option to use only electric for hot water is gone.

    This looks to be the unit that Grand design is using, based on what I saw.
    https://furrion.com/products/2-4gpm-...s-water-heater
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    2021 Reflection 337RLS, Reese 16K Goosebox, B&W ball with factory Ford Puck system
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    According to Furrion's web site, you are correct in that it heats with gas:

    https://furrion.com/products/2-4gpm-...ined-tech-spec

    Theoretically, it should consume no more energy to heat water than a tank-type heater. The definition of a BTU is the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. So, heating six gallons of water from 40 degrees to 140 degrees in a tank should take the same amount of energy as heating six gallons of water from 40 degrees to 140 degrees in a coil.

    It's pure speculation, but installation of the Furrion heaters may be a supply and demand thing. The entire industry has had problems this past year getting components from vendors to complete units - including ACs, water heaters, toilets, and many other things. GD put Furrion ACs on units for a while because they couldn't get enough of the Coleman ACs. Only GD could tell us whether or not this is a permanent change-over. Personally as full-timers, I would not like it. We run the water heater on electric nearly all the time to minimize trips to get propane.

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    It is now standard equipment on Reflections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntr70 View Post
    It is now standard equipment on Reflections.
    Thanks for chiming in, Steve. I will reiterate that, as full-timers, gas-only would be a deal-breaker for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Chance View Post
    Thanks for chiming in, Steve. I will reiterate that, as full-timers, that gas-only would be a deal-breaker for us.

    Rob
    That's interesting because I use mine on LP 99% of the time. We travel all over and dedicated 50 amp service isn't a guarantee. I'm anxious to see the actual burn rate on them since they will only fire when needed.
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    I'm thinking about moving to a Fifth Wheel And the 337RLS. This would be a non starter for me also if this is a permanent change. I don't want to pay to heat water if Electric is included in my Rate. I almost never use propane to heat water.
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    A big question I have is how will these hold up to hard water ? is there a descaler mode.. This makes having a water softener a must, whe we researched tankless heaters the one thing I took away was they have to be descaled (if I understood correctly) or they won't last long.

    Is this for the kitchen hot water too?
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    As for energy use, Rob is correct that the actual energy required for making hot water will be equal but there will be savings because there is no stand-by energy needed for the tankless water heater.
    I have a tankless heater in our seasonal residence. It quit after about 3 years use and I had to de-scale it to get it going.
    That's not a big issue, just pump some vinegar through it for a few hours but it's still another periodic maintenance task.
    The burn rate is 60,000 BTU's.
    We are like Steve, rarely use electricity for hot water - usually at gov't parks with no power.

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    Boy oh boy. When I get to the point that I can't wait 10 seconds for hot water to get to the faucet I'm using in my RV or someone can't schedule their shower or dish washing so the availability of hot water isn't a problem, I'm just going to stay home because I will have become too spoiled.
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