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Thread: Tow vehicles and CCC ratings
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03-31-2021, 06:54 AM #51
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Clearly anyone can and do alter vehicles all the time without meeting the definition of alterer. I see them all the time in parking lots and used vehicle lots. Jacked up, giant wheels and tires, crazy suspension changes, real monster trucks. Most, if not all, have been modified without any real knowledge or consideration of their effect on towing anything. I wouldn’t trust any of them to even come close to the meeting SAE tow test standard.
2020 2600RB,
2017 Silverado Crew Cab 1500, 6.2L
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03-31-2021, 07:34 AM #52
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That is true and I looking at a 2” lift for my Jeep and have read the instructions of several lift kits and all of them said this is for off-road use and suitability of operation on public streets is the responsibility of the end-user. My installer also had the same statement in their work order paperwork and you are required to sign. Even my aftermarket bumper had a statement that end-users responsibility if it alters the crash ratings of the vehicle. Even the Firestone airbags state on the box that they do not increase payload capacity. It's called CYA and a lot of thought and legal advice goes into those statements. So it's up to the end-user to prove the mods are suitability for operation on public streets and good luck with that.
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03-31-2021, 08:13 AM #53
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It's interesting that you mention. the SAE Tow test because if you exceed you GVWR you fail the test.
SAE J2807 States that exceeding the GVWR is a reason to fail
5.4 GVWR/Rear GAWR and Tongue Weight/Kingpin Weight Considerations
The tow vehicle shall be able to accommodate appropriate trailer tongue and/or kingpin weight to attain a particular TWR without exceeding Rear GAWR and/or GVWR. Required minimum conventional trailer tongue weight shall be 10% of TWR and required minimum fifth wheel or gooseneck trailer kingpin weight shall be 15% of TWR.
TWR = Trailer Weight Rating
http://fifthwheelst.com/documents/to...ds-2016-02.pdfLast edited by CWSWine; 03-31-2021 at 08:41 AM.
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