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    Brake Adjustment

    A question for Grand Design . . .

    There has been much discussion on this forum about the need to manually adjust the Lippert brakes used on Grand Design products. In my case, specifically the Reflection 303RLS.

    In the Lippert manual provided in both hard copy and electronically by Grand Design, I find the following statement "Lippert Components, Inc. Electric Brakes are automatic adjust only. If manual adjusting is needed, the following 6-step procedure can be utilized . . . "

    Please confirm whether or not the brakes on my coach are self adjusting.

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    Rob
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    Nice pick up Rob. I guess I should read my manual too. I would like to ask about my 337RLS as well if you don't mind me jumping on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cate&Rob View Post
    A question for Grand Design . . .

    There has been much discussion on this forum about the need to manually adjust the Lippert brakes used on Grand Design products. In my case, specifically the Reflection 303RLS.

    In the Lippert manual provided in both hard copy and electronically by Grand Design, I find the following statement "Lippert Components, Inc. Electric Brakes are automatic adjust only. If manual adjusting is needed, the following 6-step procedure can be utilized . . . "

    Please confirm whether or not the brakes on my coach are self adjusting.

    Thanks

    Rob
    Hi Rob (@Cate&Rob),

    Not self adjusting on Grand Design RV products.

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    I don't think any RV under the 300K price line has self adjusting brakes. I could be wrong as we don't shop that market.
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    I (obviously) have not yet disassembled a brake to look for the "promised" adjusters.
    Does anybody else find it curious that the info from Lippert even goes so far as describing how to disengage the automatic adjuster if you choose to manually adjust your brakes ?

    From the Lippert Owners Manual . . .
    "NOTE: A second screwdriver will be needed to push the auto adjusting lever away from the adjuster starwheel so that the starwheel can be rotated backwards."

    Rob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cate&Rob View Post
    I (obviously) have not yet disassembled a brake to look for the "promised" adjusters.
    Does anybody else find it curious that the info from Lippert even goes so far as describing how to disengage the automatic adjuster if you choose to manually adjust your brakes ?

    From the Lippert Owners Manual . . .
    "NOTE: A second screwdriver will be needed to push the auto adjusting lever away from the adjuster starwheel so that the starwheel can be rotated backwards."

    Rob
    Hi Rob (@Cate&Rob),

    Lippert sells to auto adjusters aftermarket.

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    Hi Janice,

    Thanks for the further clarification on this.
    It might be an idea for Grand Design and Lippert to correct the owners manual info to clearly indicate that the brakes must be manually adjusted . . . or, include the adjusters as OEM and leave the literature as it is .

    Rob
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    I was told by my dealer that they were Dexter self-adjusting brakes.

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    As Janice stated, they are all Lippert manual adjusting brakes. They need to be manually adjusted every three months or 3,000 miles at a minimum. If you can't get your brake controller to "lock up" the wheels, you might need an adjustment sooner. Here's a video from Lippert on how to adjust the brakes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih1pLKHELIs

    I did replace my brakes with Lippert "Forward Adjusting Brakes". What a huge difference!

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    We recently purchased a 2015 323bhs and have a 2013 f-250 as a tow vehicle. We LOVE the trailer and have been very impressed with Grand Design. I have attempted to set the gain on the trailer brakes as directed in the Ford book by going 20-25 mph and engaging the brakes with the hand control until they lock up and then back them off. Even at the highest gain setting of 10.0, the trailer brakes will not lock up. I sent and email to Grand Design just to clarify I do not have an issue with my brakes. They sent me an email back the next day with a page from Lippert referring the the break in period and they need to be adjusted every 3,000 miles. I have towed the trailer maybe 30 miles since we purchased it last month. I am wondering if my brakes left the factory not adjusted, did they get overworked in transport from back east, or is this normal? I am wondering is this is an issue that would get resolved as a warranty issue or will it be not covered?

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