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04-20-2021, 01:42 PM #1
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California 5th Wheel Recreational Trailer Endorsement
Went to the CA DMV to obtain my 5th Wheel Recreational Trailer Endorsement. I took the Recreational Vehicle Class A and Trailer Exam, which I passed. After that there was confusion among the DMV personnel. They then gave me a health questionnaire and said I have to go to another field office with my rig and pass a driving test. According to their handbook a health questionnaire nor a driving test were required. A vision test was required; but they did not do that. Did anyone else have to submit a health questionnaire and/or take an actual driving test for the 5th wheel endorsement?
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04-20-2021, 04:45 PM #2
You must have the wrong handbook. The health questionnaire, laws test, skills test, and driving test have been part of the Cali noncommercial Class A for years. California has probably the best details for the noncommercial Class A of any State requiring one. You will find everything on the CA.gov website as far as specifics.
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04-20-2021, 05:10 PM #3
I found this online, from the CA DMV handbook regarding Recreational Trailer Endorsements:
To obtain an original fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement-
Adults must:
Complete an application for a driver license (DL 44).
There is no fee unless your license expires within six months.
Pass the Recreational Vehicles and Noncommercial Class A Trailers law test.
Pass the basic Class C law test, unless you renewed your Class C license within the last 12 months.
Pass a vision test.
You are not required to submit a Health Questionnaire or Physician’s Health Report.
You are not required to take a pre-trip, skills, or driving test to add a Recreational Trailer endorsement to your current license.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbo...r-endorsement/
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04-20-2021, 05:30 PM #4
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The information I found about not requiring a driving test for the Recreational Trailer Endorsement was found in the on-line (DMV.CA.GOV) DMV Recreational Vehicles and Trailers handbook section 7. It states ""A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire. This endorsement is not required if the driver has a commercial or noncommercial Class A driver license. To obtain an original fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement Adult must:
Complete an application for a driver license (DL 44).
There is no fee unless your license expires within six months.
Pass the Recreational Vehicles and Noncommercial Class A Trailers law test.
Pass the basic Class C law test, unless you renewed your Class C license within the last 12 months.
Pass a vision test.
You are not required to submit a Health Questionnaire or Physician’s Health Report.
You are not required to take a pre-trip, skills, or driving test to add a Recreational Trailer endorsement to your current license."
My 5th wheel's GVWR falls within the 10,000 - 15,000 lbs and based on the last sentence, it appears a driving test for a non-commercial class A driving skills test is not required. I only wish to obtain the endorsement on my class C driver's license.
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04-20-2021, 05:43 PM #5
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Thank you livinthelife. That confirms what I found too. I guess it's back to the DMV to get this straightened out and show them what they should told me. Ugh! It shouldn't be this difficult.
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04-20-2021, 05:53 PM #6
Apologies, I didn't know Cali put an RV endorsement in-place since I was on the left coast. I was working under the assumption of a noncommercial Class A.
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04-20-2021, 05:57 PM #7
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No worries! I think the DMV doesn't know that either. 😒
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04-21-2021, 08:21 AM #8
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I had the 5th wheel endorsement when I lived in California. It shows as a "restriction 41" on your license. It is only a written test, with no health questionnaire, or driving test requirement. Not hard, just they caught me off guard, as if you haven't done a written test in a number of years, they make you take the vehicle, and for me, the motorcycle written again. Want to see everyone, including supervisors stumped, go in asking to do that test, they actually called Sacramento to figure it out on mine.
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04-21-2021, 08:27 AM #9
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You are way ahead of the game because most peeps in CA don't even know they need an endorsement for the 10,000lbs to 15,000lbs 5th wheels. Now you just need to educate the DMV on the actual requirements! Good luck!
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