F-450 maxed out payload

**palmeris** · 06-01-2021, 08:12 AM

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max payload of my 2014 f450

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5000 lbs of tile

**dragonfly** · 06-01-2021, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by palmeris

max payload of my 2014 f450

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5000 lbs of tile

Very nice payload!
I’m not sure, but probably : fifth wheel prep; double moon roof; heavier fat boy front axle; factory bed liner; king ranch package are some of the things that ate up most of the 745lbs. in payload. I’m not sure of those items which came on your truck?

**palmeris** · 06-01-2021, 10:46 AM

Platinum trim, FX4 package, 5ver / Goose Tow package, moon roof, power heated/ac seats, Linex bed liner, all came on my truck.. it was as loaded as you could get in 2014

**A.Texas.Yankee** · 06-01-2021, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by dragonfly

I bought the 2021 F-450 for hopefully having more than enough payload to tow my Solitude 385 GK (16,800 GVWR)
I loaded the Solitude to 15,500 w/ 3,760 pin weight.
My GVWR of the Truck is 14,000 and payload is 4635 on door sticker. 4635-3760 = 875 cargo capacity which seems to be not much available cargo capacity if you figure :
400 for people, 120 hitch, 43 for 5 gallon can diesel, tools and misc. 200 with about 100 safety factor.
My 450 is heavily optioned(I didn’t realize how my payload would be reduced so much)

Any suggestions or observations ?

Thank!
Allan (Dragonfly)

What options are on your truck?

My '21 450 KR is nearly decked out to the max and my payload is about 400 lbs higher than this. 4,710 lbs IIRC.

Can you move some cargo around to increase weight above or behind axles?

It's crazy how tongue weight works. I have a Momentum 395MS-R and loaded at around 19,600 lbs I'm at a pin weight of roughly 3,270 lbs.

Rating wise, you are physically good to go. Legality wise you'd close. Have you CAT scaled it to get your numbers?

Newly full timing in our 2021 Momentum 395MS-R with our tow pig being a 2021 F-450 KR

**Keebler** · 06-01-2021, 01:44 PM

I have a 2017 fully loaded F350, and my sticker is 5,300 pounds plus. As many have said here, the new F450 is a towing beast and can easily (not even close) handle anything Grand Design makes. The lower sticker number on the 450's is driven by Ford's accounting/marketing people, not by their engineers. You are beyond fine.

I'd love to see a link to a single article that points to a lawsuit against an F450 owner for being overloaded when pulling any mass manufactured 5th wheel.

If you are that insistent on having a sticker that has the numbers you want, let's trade!

Enjoy one of the best trucks for towing on the market.

**dragonfly** · 06-01-2021, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by A.Texas.Yankee

What options are on your truck?

My '21 450 KR is nearly decked out to the max and my payload is about 400 lbs higher than this. 4,710 lbs IIRC.

Can you move some cargo around to increase weight above or behind axles?

It's crazy how tongue weight works. I have a Momentum 395MS-R and loaded at around 19,600 lbs I'm at a pin weight of roughly 3,270 lbs.

Rating wise, you are physically good to go. Legality wise you'd close. Have you CAT scaled it to get your numbers?

Newly full timing in our 2021 Momentum 395MS-R with our tow pig being a 2021 F-450 KR

I appreciate your reply! Could you check your payload again on your sticker? 400lbs. seems like a big difference
I would like to know how my truck is comparing to other 2021 F-450’s.
Thanks

**dragonfly** · 06-01-2021, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Keebler

I have a 2017 fully loaded F350, and my sticker is 5,300 pounds plus. As many have said here, the new F450 is a towing beast and can easily (not even close) handle anything Grand Design makes. The lower sticker number on the 450's is driven by Ford's accounting/marketing people, not by their engineers. You are beyond fine.

I'd love to see a link to a single article that points to a lawsuit against an F450 owner for being overloaded when pulling any mass manufactured 5th wheel.

If you are that insistent on having a sticker that has the numbers you want, let's trade!

Enjoy one of the best trucks for towing on the market.

What you are saying sounds right!

**Brother_Bluto** · 06-01-2021, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by xrated

OK....I'm going to make a grown man confession here! I'm starting to get F450 envy!

That is how the road to an F450 starts...

**A.Texas.Yankee** · 06-01-2021, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by dragonfly

I appreciate your reply! Could you check your payload again on your sticker? 400lbs. seems like a big difference
I would like to know how my truck is comparing to other 2021 F-450’s.
Thanks

That was a typo... sorry that should have been "100 lbs" and fat fingered it. My apologies. I am at 4710 lbs.

I just was shocked there was anything left that you could order on the truck. I think I picked everything you could add on except the aftermarket stuff.

Newly full timing in our 2021 Momentum 395MS-R with our tow pig being a 2021 F-450 KR

**dragonfly** · 06-01-2021, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by A.Texas.Yankee

That was a typo... sorry that should have been "100 lbs" and fat fingered it. My apologies. I am at 4710 lbs.

I just was shocked there was anything left that you could order on the truck. I think I picked everything you could add on except the aftermarket stuff.

Newly full timing in our 2021 Momentum 395MS-R with our tow pig being a 2021 F-450 KR

Thanks for checking!

Oh , you know, I ordered onboard ramps.