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    Quote Originally Posted by traveldawg View Post
    Personally I think GD is on the hook for failing to properly secure that cord to the RV.
    That's my inclination as well. A properly designed trailer shouldn't be subject to chafing wiring shorting out in a matter of a few hours of use. Seems like they just wanted to avoid liability and figured it was cheaper to burn the customer relationship than fix the damage.

    I continue to be impressed at the dichotomy of wiring quality in my trailer. Some wires oversized, some under. Proper levernuts for most interior wiring connections ... and then there's the abomination rats-nest of wiring on the tongue. And I don't know *what* kind of tin the terminal rings are made of, but they're the softest I've run across in a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rootusrootus View Post
    That's my inclination as well. A properly designed trailer shouldn't be subject to chafing wiring shorting out in a matter of a few hours of use. Seems like they just wanted to avoid liability and figured it was cheaper to burn the customer relationship than fix the damage.

    I continue to be impressed at the dichotomy of wiring quality in my trailer. Some wires oversized, some under. Proper levernuts for most interior wiring connections ... and then there's the abomination rats-nest of wiring on the tongue. And I don't know *what* kind of tin the terminal rings are made of, but they're the softest I've run across in a long time.
    The "tin" you speak of should be tinned copper ring lugs. This being a "cut cost at all expense" industry they are probably sourcing the thinnest they can. I'm sure if you reasearch there is a standard that the rest of the world follows but the RV industry seems to ignore. They may loose 10 or 12 dropped into the underbelly when built but those pennies do add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked ace View Post
    The "tin" you speak of should be tinned copper ring lugs. This being a "cut cost at all expense" industry they are probably sourcing the thinnest they can. I'm sure if you reasearch there is a standard that the rest of the world follows but the RV industry seems to ignore. They may loose 10 or 12 dropped into the underbelly when built but those pennies do add up.
    Yeah I assume they're tinned copper. When I was installing my lithium battery I went ahead and cut the original ends off and crimped on better ones. There's still some more cleanup I'd like to do to the wiring on the front of the trailer. Sometimes even the little things are annoying, like how the power cord to the tongue jack is just flapping in the wind. The tongue wiring in general looks half-assed.
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    The original poster stated that they bought this for it their business as overflow accommodations. Under most insurance policies, that voids your coverage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by orbsah View Post
    A few weeks ago when getting ready to hitch up, I was pulling the cord out of the pin box (everyone coils up the cord and places it in the pinbox, right?). Apparently I wasn't careful with the plug end and somehow it touched just right on the inside of the pinbox and POP and spark! Scared the heck out of me thinking I fried something. Fortunately all was OK however it was a subtle reminder the plug is always hot when the 12V trailer battery is connected.

    Seems if one simply stuffs the cord into the pinbox and the end of the plug touches just right on the metal parts inside, it could make for a bad day.

    I'll order one of these unless someone has a better suggestion:
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    I also use something similar, and have since day one with our first trailer. we got it more to protect the end and keep bugs and dirt out.

    I had no idea that the cord had any kind of “hot point” at the plug. I learn something new nearly every day on this forum.
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    Yeah, pin 4 of the plug is battery power, some of us have inserted a ATO fuse between pin 3 &4 to turn on the campers tail and clearance lights when TS an inoperative light bulb. I have seen some owners install a sealed dead headed 7 pin receptacle to the tongue or pin box and insert the umbilical end plug into it, to keep it safe and clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rootusrootus View Post
    That's my inclination as well. A properly designed trailer shouldn't be subject to chafing wiring shorting out in a matter of a few hours of use. .
    You must have missed the part of the OP's post where it says that GD determined the cord was pulled out of the attachment at the junction box. I can go take a picture of a Solitude that shows the wire clamp screwed to the pinbox framing holding the umbilical cord. They all come that way, but will pull loose if the cord is caught on something and gets pulled out.

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    “Personally I think GD is on the hook for failing to properly secure that cord to the RV.”

    You seem to have inside knowledge. Can you please provide the evidence so the rest of us can see it. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lane Hog View Post
    The original poster stated that they bought this for it their business as overflow accommodations. Under most insurance policies, that voids your coverage.



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    And warranty. It is a “recreational vehicle” warranty

    They don’t intend to use this solely for “recreation”

    The OP has been told but these posts will surely hurt him more than help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota View Post
    “Personally I think GD is on the hook for failing to properly secure that cord to the RV.”

    You seem to have inside knowledge. Can you please provide the evidence so the rest of us can see it. Thank you.
    Here is what our Solitude 7 way cord connections look like. The cord is clamped to the back of the pin box. Even inside the junction box you can see plastic holding and strain relief box clamps where the wires go into and out of the junction box. That black wire inside the junction box is the 12V battery power that is always hot with a battery connected.

    Now i am not saying that in this case for the OP, that's is what happened, the cord was yanked out, I'm just showing what our Solitude factory connections look like. Very unfortunate circumstance for the OP, no matter how it happened or what caused it, nobody was hurt or injured, thank goodness,
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