How many people pull a Reflection 303RLS with a 3/4 truck?

[John303]

I must be mistaken about how to read the stixker and don't know what I'm doing.....everything i have read online says my bed capacity is 4000+.
Can someone tell me how ro read it?Attachment 36716Attachment 36717

Find the tire sticker. Here is a picture of mine where I circled the payload rating. Pay attention to the tire pressures too to get that payload.

[John303]

Or.....is THIS what i have to go by??Attachment 36718
.....which is ONLY 2140lbs......surely the bed loaded qill hold more than that.....

I just posted a picture of mine, but it looks like you found the right sticker. And no, the truck is not rated to carry more 2140 lbs of "stuff", including people, dogs, coolers, camp gear etc. The diesel engines are very heavy and gobble up payload. My gasser Ram 3/4 had over 3000lbs of payload, but I was not satisfied with the power going up hills.

[Fivecodys]

Not "Weight Police" but wanted to add a comment.
Was told by my insurance agent (aka the wife) that there can be legal ramifications if you are overloaded and involved in an accident.
In some cases your insurance company may even deny coverage. I myself am not in position to tell you not to do this but since you are investigating all of this it might be something to consider.

We arrogantly towed over our cargo capacity for quite a while. I mean, my last truck pulled a space shuttle across the tarmac so what's the problem, right?

Again, I'm not telling you what you should do. Just passing along information.

Safe travels!

[Rgpracer]

Find the tire sticker. Here is a picture of mine where I circled the payload rating. Pay attention to the tire pressures too to get that payload.

Soooo, mine saying 2140 lbs is all mine will hold huh?
With the 303 having a pin weight of 1700.....and combine passenger weight and qhat ever else i put in the bed puts me near capacity??
Wow
Thanks

[NB Canada]

Soooo, mine saying 2140 lbs is all mine will hold huh?
With the 303 having a pin weight of 1700.....and combine passenger weight and qhat ever else i put in the bed puts me near capacity??
Wow
Thanks

It will be less than 2140
Any customer or dealer installed options are deducted from that
Only an empty scale run will determine
My guess it is under 2000
Then you have the weight of the hitch as well

And 1700?
The dry pin weight is 2000 not 1700
You won’t be near you will exceed by a lot imo

2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

[Rgpracer]

It will be less than 2140
Any customer or dealer installed options are deducted from that
Only an empty scale run will determine
My guess it is under 2000
Then you have the weight of the hitch as well

And 1700?
The dry pin weight is 2000 not 1700
You won’t be near you will exceed by a lot imo

2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

According to GD and web site.....1640, not sure where your 2000 number came from.

[JeffD68]

Are you trying to start trouble? Trying or not, a question like yours will start it.

Not all 3/4 ton trucks are created equal. Ford and GM offer 250/2500 trucks, when properly equipped, are mechanically speaking, nearly identical to their 350/3500 counterparts. Ram is a little different. I'm no expert on Ram trucks, but know that the 2500 has a coil spring rear suspension while the 3500 has heavier duty leaf springs. Ram uses the lower output version of the Cummins in the 2500. Ram also multiple transmissions...I'm guessing the one behind the 2500 engine(s) is less stout than the one behind trucks with the high output Cummins.

Is it safe towing a 303 with your 2500? Based on the millions of miles of successful towing by overloaded 3/4 ton trucks, probably. Of course, some dude that drives a 25 year old 3500 (that is not nearly as safe as your modern truck with safety features that didn't even exist in 1996) will chime in saying if you are one pound over payload, you are living on the brink of disaster. That is a gross oversimplification.

You would not be "severely" overloaded, but the pin weight of a 303 will eat up all of the stickered payload capacity of your truck. You would be a few hundred pounds over.

[Dakota]

I do. Ford F-250 turbo diesel. Pulls great. No sag. But, I do know I am at or above cargo carrying capacity. We camp in state for the most part, but want to travel to the east and west coast after I retire. We will look at 350’s if we decide to do that.

[NB Canada]

According to GD and web site.....1640, not sure where your 2000 number came from.

I just looked at the site for a 303rls and it shows pin weight of 1865 which is without options ,lp gas or batteries


2021 Imagine 2400 BH
2018 GMC Sierra 4x4 crew

[Jerryr]

Your payload is 2040 lbs
Your REAR GAWR is 6140

Payload:
Payload is calculated by the GVWR of your truck (10000 lbs) minus the actual weight of you truck with full fuel as it left the assembly line. So ha means your truck weighed 7860 lbs when it was born (10000-2140=7840). Technically you should never exceed 2140 lbs total weight counting what’s in the cabin and what’s in the bed.

Rear GAWR:
As I stated earlier the most critical weight where you can break things in the truck when you load a 5th wheel is REAR GAWR. This takes into account suspension limits, axle limits and tire limits. That GAVR is normally limited by either tire loading or axle limitation, which ever is the lowest. Exceeding that limit can cause axle failure or tire failure.

You can take your truck to a CAT scale with full fuel and see what the rear axle weight is now. Subtract that from 6140 and that will tell you how much pin weight and hitch weight you can carry before exceeding REAR GAWR.