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10-31-2021, 08:00 PM #11
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We also have a F-250 6 3/4' bed. Our PullRite Superglide is on the rail system as the truck did no have the puck system. The PullRite has been fantastic although we did experience some (limited) play where the hitch and pins attached to the rails. I cut up a used inner tube cut up to take some of the play out of the pin/rail play. Overall very happy with our set up. We absolutely love the PullRite Superglide. Maintenance is easy to keep up with and we have little to none chucking.
Cons -
1. I cannot add airbags due to the aftermarket rails under the bed.
2. I lose about 40# of payload due to the rail system as compared to a puck system.
Pros: I have not had a vehicle payment in 10 years.Geoff and Cheri
2011 F250 CC 6.7L
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11-10-2021, 02:41 PM #12
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When I first got into fifth wheels, or I'll say prior to getting a fifth wheel, I found a very nice '12 RAM dually 6.7L Cummins and it had 158k miles on it. I was told that a 1 ton dually could pull any fifth wheel, but that's for later.
My choices were rails or no rails, not a puck system. I chose to go with the B&W turn over ball gooseneck hitch. I installed that because it allowed for a totally flat bed floor, no rails. I purchased the Companion 20k fifth wheel hitch.
With my fifth wheel grossing out at 18k#, I thought NO PROBLEM, I have a 1 ton dually diesel. When I CAT Scaled my total package I was at 26,240# and my RAM was only rated for 23,500# total. It pulled it great, but I was always leery about "what if"... This past April I purchased a new '21 Ford F-350 DRW 6.7L diesel King Ranch. All I can say is WOW! It came with the Ultimate Towing Package and that, among other items, had the bed puck system. I sold my base B&W Companion and bought a new B&W base for the Ford puck system. I kept my 20k top swivel hitch and all is wonderful. I will say that I have tons of bucking/chucking with the RAM and the B&W hitch. I swapped out the solid pin box and went to a MorRyde pin box. Has 3" fore/aft and 1.5" left/right pin block movement. This made a world of difference to the way the truck pulled at full gross weight, that was with the RAM. The Ford just took it to the next level of smooth!
Back to the rails or no rails. If you can cope with the rails in the bed, it's cheaper than going with the under bed gooseneck and then getting the upper hitch. I did like the turn over ball and the flat bed floor though.
Either will do just fine, just a choice you will need to make. We all have opinions and they're just our opinions. So 1.5" tall full width rails or more $$$ and a flat floor.
I will say the B&W Companion lower was around 125# and the upper swivel hitch was around 85#. The only negative for me was the base has a 6" long square'ish tube that goes into the gooseneck ball mount and you need to lower the hitch into that hole very straight. I also lifts up very straight, so for my 71 year old body lifting straight up 125# was a chore at times. The new lower base for the Ford puck system is only around 80# and I still take the top swivel hitch off first. It all just pins and clips to remove.
Sorry for rambling, I just couldn't shut my fingers up...
Dan
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11-10-2021, 06:44 PM #13
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I am not sure why you get chucking. With an automatic slider the pin and hitch are locked together. I guess there is looseness in the slider section. As far as pucks go they are great. I just winterized my trailer and took the hitch off the truck and put the puck covers back in and now I have a clean bed.
Mal & Helen
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11-10-2021, 08:33 PM #14
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Have the same 337RLS (2020), 3/4 ton truck with puck system (call etrailer...there are aftermarket kits to add a goose ball) and a Reese Goosebox. No indication the 5th wheel is there...not a single jerk or sound. Ever (over 2500 miles driven since install). The included airbag and pistons in the Goosebox smooth everything. Bonus is a free truck bed after unhitching.
Btw, even with my Ram 2500 short bed I can turn around in a cul de sec.2020 Reflection 337RLS
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11-10-2021, 09:24 PM #15
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11-10-2021, 11:58 PM #16
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If you have a truck that did not come equipped with the Puck System, it can be added aftermarket. You can tell if you can add the Puck system by looking at the bed, if the bed has dimples where the puck system would be, then all you have to do is buy the Puck kit and install.
Installation involves removing the bed to install the Puck frame and drilling the holes in the truck bed.David and Peggy
2019 Ford F350 Lariat, 6.7L Diesel, Dually, Long Bed
Running with 20k Reese Goosebox (Love It) and Ford Factory "Puck" system.
Stopping with 8,000 lb Disc Brakes and Titan Hydraulic over Electric Brakes system.
Powering all this fun with 1200 Watts of Solar, two Tesla, Model S, battery modules, 24 volt Victron Inverter.
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11-11-2021, 12:00 AM #17
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David and Peggy
2019 Ford F350 Lariat, 6.7L Diesel, Dually, Long Bed
Running with 20k Reese Goosebox (Love It) and Ford Factory "Puck" system.
Stopping with 8,000 lb Disc Brakes and Titan Hydraulic over Electric Brakes system.
Powering all this fun with 1200 Watts of Solar, two Tesla, Model S, battery modules, 24 volt Victron Inverter.
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