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11-13-2021, 07:19 PM #31
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Almost all car manufacturers have what I call a verniered lug nut. Corrosion gets between the lug nut itself and the verniered cover and causes it to swell (causes it to split at the base and work it’s way outward over time). Within a year or two most will have this issue. Faster if it’s sees a lot of dirt roads. I have worked in a domestic car dealer 30+ years and have first hand experience with this problematic issue. I always advise customers to switch them out to a solid lug nut before this takes place. I don’t like to have to spend the money to make this upgrade although if I had a flat on the side of the road I would do it in a heartbeat.
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11-13-2021, 07:41 PM #32
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Anti-seize has its benefits with reduced needed torque, less corrosion and improved stud tension (when proper torque is used) due to less variability in friction. The down side is when mechanics use dry torque specification when anti seize was previously used the risk of over tensioning increases and can damage rotors and when wheel needs to be changed on the road lugs can't be loosened. Also there is more friction from the nut face than the nut/stud threads so it does matter if one or both surfaces are lubricated. When torque is specified as dry what really is meant is "as found" in other words not perfectly clean surfaces. Very clean surface has more friction than as found.
Mechanics commonly use torque sticks attached to impact guns to set the torque so that impact gun supply pressure is less critical to getting reasonable torque.
I mostly recheck lug nut torque when others have worked on my equipment. I have had three sets of lug nuts over tightened by a factor of more than two by different shops in the last five years and I don't use anti seize on lug nuts.Last edited by TimtheToolMan; 11-13-2021 at 07:45 PM.
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11-13-2021, 08:04 PM #33
Oh lord how did all of us shade tree mechanics survive to see old age with never ever using a torque wrench on our car wheels, it is amazing we survived.
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11-13-2021, 09:13 PM #34
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I've always rechecked the tire lug nuts after having a tire/tires changed. I have had a couple tires on my daughter's car with lug nuts that could barely be loosened with a 25" breaker bar. How would a person ever get those loose if they had to change a tire by the side of the road? I've always heard the junior guy at the shop gets the job changing tires, so maybe that's the reason. Pretty crazy.
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11-14-2021, 12:26 PM #35
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11-14-2021, 03:35 PM #36
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11-14-2021, 06:24 PM #37
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11-16-2021, 11:01 AM #38
That is true, around Memphis here its just random parts flying off cars
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