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11-29-2021, 01:29 PM #61
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11-29-2021, 07:07 PM #62
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11-30-2021, 09:05 AM #63
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I have that payload sticker beat.
I checked off every comfort, convenience, capability, and safety feature on my order sheet to get there. That isn't hyperbole, I checked them all.
It is not difficult to outfit a F-150 to achieve a higher available payload. Heck, the Ford Maverick has a payload north of 1500 pounds!
Many disagree, some vehemently, but I believe the payload sticker is the most irrelevant piece of information on a truck. As soon as I upgraded my tires (rated for 4080 pounds each), the inflation specs were meaningless. Actually, they were mostly meaningless with the stock tires, which were the same load range E, 80 psi max tires on higher GVWR trucks.
GVWR is not derived by determining the mechanical capability of the components of a specific truck, it is assigned purely for marketing, licensing, and regulatory reasons. It is so arbitrary that two identical vehicles can have completely different GVWRs, either at the discretion of the manufacturer or the consumer that elects to de-rate their truck.
I went off on a tangent/rant. The point is, I'm certain the sticker the OP posted is legit.2022 F450 Platinum
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12-06-2021, 11:22 AM #64
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I'm sure the same game is played on Trailers. My reason for saying this is in Texas, if a trailer's GVWR is over 4K, it MUST be titled. (I was shocked that my boat trailer does not have a title). If a trailer's GVWR is 7.5K or over, it must also have an annual safety inspection. I can only assume this is the reason my travel trailer has a rating of 7495, instead of 7500 or more to avoid such inspections????
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12-06-2021, 05:00 PM #65
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Is all of this different for an 1/2 ton vs heavy duty trucks? Or, would the same logic apply? So once I get my new F150, will I be able to find specs on the axle itself that might be different than the data on the door sticker? Or, with a 1/2 ton is the door sticker axle rating information going to match what the actual axle ratings would be?
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12-06-2021, 08:07 PM #66
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12-07-2021, 05:23 AM #67
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12-07-2021, 09:20 AM #68
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I have owned a number of F-150s over the years. None of them inspired confidence as they approached (or exceeded) their limits. That isn't to say they weren't capable trucks, but it was apparent from the driver's seat that their stated limits were in line with their practical limits. Much of that is due to their lower weight and shorter wheel base compared to the two 8000 pound, crew cab, long bed F-250s I've owned. My current truck with my 12000 pound GVW fifth wheel in tow is operated at well over it's stickered payload but under all other stated limits and it is the most comfortable and stable towing experience I have ever had. It does not feel like it has come close to reaching it's practical limits. My 2016 F-150 3.5 EB was paired with a 30 foot, 7500 pound travel trailer that was front heavy and had a 1200 pound tongue weight. I was running slightly over the stickered payload and the experience was acceptable, but not 100% confidence inspiring like my current set up.
It looks like you have ordered yourself one loaded pickup! I'm sure it will be a great match for your current trailer.2022 F450 Platinum
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12-07-2021, 10:10 AM #69
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Comparing a 5th wheel vs a TT for towing regardless of the truck, the 5th wheel will win hands down.
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12-07-2021, 10:30 AM #70
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True. I towed that same 7500 travel trailer with my 2005 F-250 and the experience was night and day different.
The point wasn't to really compare the towing prowess of the two different platforms (or trailer types) but rather to provide some admittedly anecdotal evidence that the stated limits of half ton trucks are more in line with their practical limits than is the case with 3/4 ton trucks.2022 F450 Platinum
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