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02-13-2022, 03:22 PM #11
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We got the 2970RL & Love it. We had not an f150, but Ram 1500 that was supposed to be able to tow 10200#. Hubby tried it twice. On the second trip out, I got him to go across the CAT scales. We were over on Payload/Pin/Hitch weight - Rear axles were overloaded by about 400# and we didn't have water in it. I talked him into & am still paying for the 2500 we upgraded to, and WE are much happier and feel much more able to handle the camper better. We would highly recommend, just get a ¾ to 1t truck and then get the right trailer for you! (part of the 2x truck gang)
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02-13-2022, 05:02 PM #12
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02-13-2022, 06:29 PM #13
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I am in a similar situation.
I ordered a 2022 Ram 1500, 5.7L eTorque engine, 3.92, air suspension etc. Ram claims it will tow 12,500, which I find hard to believe.
I also ordered a 2022 Imagine 2670MK. Just under 7,000 lbs. empty and gross weight of 8,500. Both should be here in early March.
I sure hope I have enough truck.Rob
North GA
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02-13-2022, 07:25 PM #14
We pulled our 2970 with a f150 and we were over weight on payload, and probably rear axle. I added air bags and Helwig rear bar but just not enough truck. Local camping trips weren’t too bad, but one trip in the Appalachian mountains and we knew a F250 would be necessary.
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02-14-2022, 06:02 AM #15
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Speaking from experience with a slightly smaller trailer.
The problem is not towing, wind, trucks passing and especially emergency braking is where
the problem arises. A very good WDH is essential, we use the Propride.
Your truck will not enjoy Mont Eagle north of Chattanooga.
Going up your engine will strain to maintain speed, going down your brakes will suffer.
When we started, we were camping close to home and using 2 lane roads, our Ram 1500
had no problems at all with the good WDH. Speed about 55 occasional truck coming head on, no problem.
Braking was good because we were driving slower and fewer idiots. Once we ventured onto the Expressways
everything changed to the negatives already mentioned.
Good Luck:
Bob A.Last edited by attaboy; 02-14-2022 at 07:03 AM. Reason: Clarification
Bob & Alice
2020 Ram 3500 Limited Megacab SRW Aisin
2020 Grand Design Imagine 2450RL
ProPride 3P 1400 lb. bars WDH
Micro Air easy start, Goodyear Endurance Load rated "E" Tires
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02-14-2022, 07:43 AM #16
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well.....Guess I will be the huckleberry for the weight police lol. I have that exact set up. (see sig) First off, I have many years with a variety if pull trailers, 5th wheels and class A motorhome, plus being a former owner operator hauling produce, chemicals and sand and gravel, whatever all over the us and Canada. Now having thrown out my bonafides, here is the deal. I have pulled this unit over 8,000 miles since I bought it new last year and not had any problems. Would a 3/4 ton or bigger help? Probably, but I have pulled this unit everywhere from Colorado to California and the across Arizona to Arkansas and back to Colorado. Hills are no concern for the twin turbo 3.5. Downhill is as hard as you want to make it. Take it slow and use the tow haul feature and let the trans and downhill braking work for you. We are full timing since retiring last year and spending the winter in Arizona. Will be heading across Texas to our fishing ground in Arkansas in April. Last weigh in before leaving Colorado in November was right at limits but no issues with hills or braking.
I am using an EQ4 hitch and it works. You are going to notice wind and truck wash, but coming from the trucking industry, you get that in semi's as well.
I will say this, if you are uncomfortable with pulling it, don't. There are a lot of people out there pulling stuff for the first time and with no or very little experience, so don't be that guy. Good luck on your decision, be safe.2019 F150 4x4 screw sb with max towing
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02-14-2022, 08:18 AM #17
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I guess the confusion (and concern) for me is the Ram dealer is telling me one thing and some of the feedback here suggests I may experience issues towing the Imagine 2670 with a half ton truck (supposedly rated at 12,500 towing capacity).
Rob
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02-14-2022, 09:01 AM #18
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If I were you I'd get a Pro Pride WDH for that 2670. Most all of the heavy stuff will be in the rear of the TT. Dry TW (690) is barely 10% and could be barely 10% or less when loaded. Dry weight will be around 7300lbs delivered and loaded around 8300 lbs. An 8300lb TT needs a TW around 1030 lbs. Not sure what your payload on the truck will be or how much stuff you'll load but it looks iffy to me.
JMO but any TT over 7,000 loaded is 3/4 ton territory. 8300lbs is really pushing the average 1/2 ton truck.
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02-14-2022, 09:19 AM #19
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Dealer only wants to sell, and hey, the brochure says you can do it (not really). Most salesman have no understanding the actual dynamics of towing. Most have never towed anything beyond a Uhaul trailer. When I bought my truck several years ago, I was asking about the payload, they all quoted the brochure. I asked about the actual sticker payload, and none of the ones I was dealing with knew about it, and I had to explain and direct them where to look. Had them even send me a picture of the sticker. Guy that I did buy my truck from, actually admitted he had no idea about payload with a trailer.
One of the towing abilities is determined using a flatbed trailer with weights on it. Vastly different then a billboard that you will be towing, although Ford does have a limitation on the frontal area of a trailer being towed that most people do not know about. People here are giving you the no nonsense numbers.2023 Chevy 3500HD CC SB 4x4 Dmax
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02-14-2022, 01:18 PM #20
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We have a 2970RL and love it. We started pulling with our F150 3.7 turbo since we had upgraded our trailer. After a couple of outings I discovered this truck just was not adequate. I could only pull slow and trucks would push me around when they passed me. Hills were a killer. Took me a long time to find one but I was able to get an F250 6.7 diesel super duty. If you can work it in your budget try to upgrade.
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