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    Reflection 295RL heater vent delaminating barn door to bedroom

    The heater vent in our m/bedroom is causing the 'barn' door that hangs above it to delaminate (see picture). The obvious answer (duh) close the door when operating heater, but that's not a solution. I'm going to try to glue the veneer/laminate back on and get a diverter for the vent. Poor design or no forethought I guess. Anyone else have this problem, if not you probably will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe320 View Post
    The heater vent in our m/bedroom is causing the 'barn' door that hangs above it to delaminate (see picture). The obvious answer (duh) close the door when operating heater, but that's not a solution. I'm going to try to glue the veneer/laminate back on and get a diverter for the vent. Poor design or no forethought I guess. Anyone else have this problem, if not you probably will.

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    Hobe, we had the exact same problem. I removed the door and laid it flat to try and iron out the wrinkles. This is when I found that the laminate is really just contact paper! After warming the paper with a hair dryer, I used a roller to flatten it down. After letting it sit overnight, the bubbles and wrinkles returned. This was the time we said "just forget it" and decided to just not reinstall the door.

    We have used our trailer several times since removing the door and actually like it that way. There is more room at the foot of the bed and we don't have to remember to secure the door before traveling. I posted about our disappointment with GD using contact paper as a cheap substitute for laminate or even a true veneer and while several replied in favor of my disappointment, many pointed out that it is a cost and weight savings method of construction.

    By the way, others have seen this wrinkling of other trim pieces in their trailers and attribute it to the hot dry climates they travel in. Well, how much dryer and hotter can a door get then right over the heat register?! In other words, poor design by GD.
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    John,

    Thanks for the information. I forgot to mention, one night I tried to 'tone the heat' down out of that vent by laying my wife's flip flop over it.....ruined the flip flop, I'll bring that up to GD as well. Great suggestion about leaving the door at home will consider that moving forward. I'll try what you suggested, while were out and post my results. Thanks Again!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe320 View Post
    The heater vent in our m/bedroom is causing the 'barn' door that hangs above it to delaminate (see picture). The obvious answer (duh) close the door when operating heater, but that's not a solution. I'm going to try to glue the veneer/laminate back on and get a diverter for the vent. Poor design or no forethought I guess. Anyone else have this problem, if not you probably will.

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    Could also try dampered registers. We bought some and swapped all our OEMs out with them.

    https://www.amazon.com/LeisureRV-Clo...34038019&psc=1
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    Dampered registers are a great idea. We did that on our 2 previous trailers. Swapped them all...allowed uas to control heat better as often the upper part of the 5th closest to where furnace blower is got too warm. Dampered registers also prevent a lot of the grit and stuff from falling into the registers.
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    Also on topic of registers...in your 295's....is the one behind the toilet a cold air return? Ours behind toilet does not appear to have any ducting in it, I can see the pex tubing running to the toilet beneath the register, and no air blows from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailrydr View Post
    Could also try dampered registers. We bought some and swapped all our OEMs out with them.

    https://www.amazon.com/LeisureRV-Clo...34038019&psc=1
    Were you able to get the dampered registers in black or did you go with the tan ones like in the link you included?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe320 View Post
    The heater vent in our m/bedroom is causing the 'barn' door that hangs above it to delaminate (see picture).
    I don't have a solution or the same problem, as we have a different trailer. Just thought I would add that on a trip earlier this year I put a thermometer in front of the heater vent in the bathroom of our 22RBE and measured the air coming out at 125 degrees. Practically a heat gun!

    Edited this post because it just occurred to me that some type of metal kick plate might work to cover up the curling contact paper.
    Last edited by alias100; 05-20-2022 at 11:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyrv View Post
    Were you able to get the dampered registers in black or did you go with the tan ones like in the link you included?
    Unfortunately, we couldnt find any black ones. So we had had to get some spray paint and paint them ourselves. Used a Rustoleum Espresso 2X from Walmart to cover them. Just be sure to wipe them down with alcohol first before spraying.

    As for the bathroom register, we swapped it out too and also noticed that it looked like a return vent. We never use the heater in our 5er, just use the fireplace and a ceramic space heater which does good for temps 50 and above to keep it in the low 70's.

    However, under the kitchen hutch bottom center drawer It appears that a return air area may exist there also without a register on it. Its easier to see once you remove the drawer.
    Last edited by trailrydr; 05-21-2022 at 04:03 AM. Reason: Added info on hutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Goodwrench View Post
    Hobe, we had the exact same problem. I removed the door and laid it flat to try and iron out the wrinkles. This is when I found that the laminate is really just contact paper! After warming the paper with a hair dryer, I used a roller to flatten it down. After letting it sit overnight, the bubbles and wrinkles returned. This was the time we said "just forget it" and decided to just not reinstall the door.

    We have used our trailer several times since removing the door and actually like it that way. There is more room at the foot of the bed and we don't have to remember to secure the door before traveling. I posted about our disappointment with GD using contact paper as a cheap substitute for laminate or even a true veneer and while several replied in favor of my disappointment, many pointed out that it is a cost and weight savings method of construction.

    By the way, others have seen this wrinkling of other trim pieces in their trailers and attribute it to the hot dry climates they travel in. Well, how much dryer and hotter can a door get then right over the heat register?! In other words, poor design by GD.
    All the cabinet framing is contact paper over wood. It's how most all RV's are made. To get real wood framing or real wood doors you have to spend $$$$$. Most all things you see in RV's is smoke and mirrors. Products are made to look expensive but are really cheaply made.

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