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06-07-2022, 02:45 PM #11
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06-07-2022, 08:58 PM #12
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What cab/wheelbase do you have? A lot of folks mention the difference in wheelbase between F150 and Super Duty. However a F150 Super Crew with 6.5' bed has a 157" wheelbase. A Super Duty crew cab with short bed has a 160" wheelbase. It's not all that different depending on cab and bed length.
That said, you've got an awful lot of trailer if you have a short bed F150. I'd offer same advice as another post...invest in a ProPride.
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06-08-2022, 12:51 PM #13
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As someone who drives a F-150 short bed with a 30 ft trailer, no WD hitch is going to overcome the fact that you're driving a light short wheelbase truck with a long trailer...
I use the Reese dual cam with 10,000 lb bars, and you simply have to know what degree of sway to expect with that large of a box behind you.
I've made a conscious choice to drive the truck I need 48 weeks out of the Year versus the truck I'd like to have the four weeks that I'm towing a trailer.
When I'm towing, I keep my speed down, and I anticipate trucks or other trailers passing me. That works for me, and I'm sure it works for others who also don't have the money to go buy a super duty long bed for the couple weeks a year they need it. Especially with diesel prices where they currently are.
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06-08-2022, 01:51 PM #14
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At one point, we ALL go thru this analysis; some of us do it the very most expensive way. I had an F150 and lost my trust when towing our 2600rb down a very steep switchback road in Virginia. The engine RPM's were screaming trying to hold back all that weight. Yes, we later learned we had the 2017 model where the inner bearing seals leaked. Basically I did not have trailer brakes. I tried so hard to make my F150 into a safe tow experience only to find the trailer brakes failed and left the F150 to handle all the trailer weight. No more. That experience and the insane cross winds on a another trip caused more white knuckle driving than I cared for. I traded for a SuperDuty truck and now I forget what white knuckle driving is all about.
Now about WDH. If bars are too small, truck will porpoise. If bars are too big (or too tight) then ride is too stiff. You will only find your sweet spot once your basement is loaded up for a trip, truck has the camping load in the bed, pets are onboard etc. Only then can you set the bars for best comfort. If I had to guess, the dealer chose the bars that would give you a softer ride, but these might not be ideal when loaded up.
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06-11-2022, 09:11 PM #15
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Last edited by Tapper; 06-11-2022 at 10:00 PM.
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06-12-2022, 12:13 PM #16
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will never get a half ton pickup to tow your rig comfortably. You have a great 150 to tow something in the 26-28ft range at less than 7000 lbs. I tried towing a 32ft 9000 lb trailer with a Ram 1500 and it was terrifying.
I too had the Blue Ox and it didnt work that well even when I moved to an F250.
No matter what hitch you get, set it to get your front fender well back to where the truck was unhitched. E.g measure the front wheel well distance to the ground with the truck unhitched. Then hitch up and set your Blue Ox chains to bring the front wheel well back as close to the first measurement as possible. Mine was 9 links from the top, if I remember correctly. BTW 13% of GVWR on that trailer is about 1100 lbs. You may not have enough bar at 1000 lbs.
I would advise to not throw a bunch of money on band-aids like air bags, new tires, etc. They will not help one bit on your sway problem.
You are in Super Duty territory with that trailer IMO. F250 gas, or F350 diesel. F250 diesel has a payload reduction due to the heavier diesel engine. F350 is not much more than F250 and much more payload capable if going diesel.
The Propride hitches are excellent, but very expensive. One of these might help, but how much remains to be seen at $3000 or so.
Towingplanner.com is an excellent resource for how to weigh your rig on the CAT scales.
Good luck and stay safe out there.
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06-13-2022, 02:28 PM #17
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So we went on trip not too far out and I'll say this much. I set up the hitch on 9 links and 1000lb bars and the front fender was the same as unhitched. (the dealer had it on 8 and told us to use that). Not sure how much the tires helped but the ride was much better even my wife could feel the difference. The worst part of the ride was the road itself either in disrepair or construction zones. On generally smooth roads the ride was good up and down hills. We experienced a bit of push from truck and busses but nothing like before. Yeah I get it about the truck(s) choices. Im looking into that but... As it is having to take out a loan for fuel
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06-13-2022, 06:50 PM #18
As an FYI, The tension should be set by adding or subtracting washers in the hitch head. each washer equals about one chain link. One spec to keep in mind, is you need at LEAST 6 chain links uner tension. This is to allow proper hitch movement when turning. Once you
have it setup, you can add or subtract a link or two to account for loading differences, keeping in mind the minimum links under tension. The downside to setting it up with the max links under tension is that it reduces ground clearance. From what you wrote, you may be fine at this point. ( though I prefer 7 links under tension) I just wanted to clear up any misconceptions about the right way to setup a WDH.2021 398M Full Body Paint 8k axles. LRH tires. Disc brakes.
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06-13-2022, 09:56 PM #19
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Great!!
Maybe you will be OK with your current setup.
Your Ford is a much more capable truck than the Ram I had.
I got a tremendous amount of "suck" off of 18 wheelers. Terrifying!
If you have problems going forward, maybe consider the Propride. It will be night and day over the Ox.
My brother in law has a similar 150 to yours. He pulls a 28 ft Airstream with the Propride. He loves it.
I helped him install the Propride and was very impressed with the build quality. They include a bunch of extra hardware that you could use down the road.
That 150 is capable of pulling your trailer. Stopping and sway will be your enemy. You may be OK giving your re-adjustment.
Happy Trails to you.
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06-13-2022, 10:52 PM #20
My 397, finally
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