Hitch Decisions

**NB Canada** · 07-23-2022, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by goducks14

This is why it's better to tow TT's over 6000lbs with a 3/4 ton truck. A simple EAZ-Lift el cheapo WDH is all you'd need.
Or order an F150 with the HDPP option. Chance are the OP's going to run out of payload before this is over. A PP or HA only adds to the payload issue.
A 2600RB will be around 6200lbs delivered. Base TW with 2 batteries and propane will be around 730lbs.
The average TT/5er person loads about 1000lbs in their trailers. 7200lbs needs about 900lbs for optimum TW.
I've been down this road before. It's not fun. You start dumping money into a situation that should not have started had a 3/4 ton truck been bought.

Can you detail the physics behind this?
My half ton tows my 7000 plus trailer perfectly
Is your theory based on the weight ratio to trailer?
Because many 1 tons are greatly outnumbered on the ratio
My truck doesn’t weigh that much less than a 3/4 ton gas

**goducks14** · 07-23-2022, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by NB Canada

Can you detail the physics behind this?
My half ton tows my 7000 plus trailer perfectly
Is your theory based on the weight ratio to trailer?
Because many 1 tons are greatly outnumbered on the ratio
My truck doesn’t weigh that much less than a 3/4 ton gas

My theory is based on the BTDT and the fact that many 1/2 ton truck owners towing over 6000lbs come on RV forums looking for solutions because they have towing issues. Not every 1/2 ton truck is equal and not every TT is designed the same. Your setup works great for you but may not work great for a Ram 1500 or a 145"wb F150 with a 6750lb GVWR. Or a 30' RK 7000+lb TT.
Thats why I suggest that if you're towing near 7000lbs to get a 3/4 ton truck. Then you won't have to sort out towing problems.
Your truck may not weigh that much less than a 3/4 ton gas but it certainly doesn't have the same frame and suspension that a 3/4 ton gas has.
If you actually towed your TT with a 3/4 ton truck you'd see the difference. I've BTDT with a previous TT. Trust me it's night and day different. Your setup works for you and thats great.
It's just my opinion and nothing else.

**NB Canada** · 07-23-2022, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by goducks14

My theory is based on the BTDT and the fact that many 1/2 ton truck owners towing over 6000lbs come on RV forums looking for solutions because they have towing issues.

Your truck may not weigh that much less than a 3/4 ton gas but it certainly doesn't have the same frame and suspension that a 3/4 ton gas has.

It's just my opinion and nothing else.

1-I think the ones that come on forums are just inexperienced not that they have an actual issue other than likely a poorly loaded trailer

2- I am lost as well how a frame and suspension can mitigate sway
I still have a full channel frame and leafs
Not arguing btw just see this said a lot and was curious of the physics behind it
It is heavily frowned upon to have a 6000 lb 1/2 ton hauling a 7000 pound trailer but a 9000 lb 1 ton can haul a 15000+ lbs without concern

**Dave & Robin G** · 07-27-2022, 06:27 PM

I have no opinion on the Hensley because I have no experience with it. I’ve been using a PP since I started pulling a trailer (2600RB), first with an Expedition and now with a F150. The PP works as advertised; great. I balked too because of price, but after talking with Sean (PP) I dove in. No regrets. If you follow the PP FB group there are used WDHs for sale occasionally.

**masterdrago** · 07-27-2022, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by goducks14

This is why it's better to tow TT's over 6000lbs with a 3/4 ton truck. A simple EAZ-Lift el cheapo WDH is all you'd need.
Or order an F150 with the HDPP option. Chance are the OP's going to run out of payload before this is over. A PP or HA only adds to the payload issue.
A 2600RB will be around 6200lbs delivered. Base TW with 2 batteries and propane will be around 730lbs.
The average TT/5er person loads about 1000lbs in their trailers. 7200lbs needs about 900lbs for optimum TW.
I've been down this road before. It's not fun. You start dumping money into a situation that should not have started had a 3/4 ton truck been bought.

We had a 3/4 ton a few years back. Not going back to the harsh ride for 90% of our mileage. Also had a 1 ton. Never again. We've moved down to a 7,800# camper and a nice riding F150 without HDPP (not available even if we wanted it).

**masterdrago** · 07-27-2022, 09:03 PM

The weight of the camper will ~= the weight of the truck (maybe 7,850 fully loaded towed by 7050 F150). Just for thee inquiring minds.

**masterdrago** · 07-27-2022, 09:05 PM

We are most likely going to settle on a PP as I'm too old to make more mistakes and really do not want to deal with dangerous situations that I can nip in the bud.

**masterdrago** · 07-27-2022, 09:06 PM

I gave up trying to get accepted on the PP FB group. It just never happened.

**stroguy** · 07-28-2022, 06:16 AM

Not getting accepted on FB. Now that’s funny.

**masterdrago** · 07-28-2022, 08:21 AM

Yep. Thought it was pretty weird. I asked to join and after 3 days, no reply. Cancelled my request. Sean has only been 50% good on email answers. I guess he is just so swamped in sales, he doesn't have time. I keep riding left and right on the fence pertaining the decision PP or Arrow. The Arrow will cost ~grand less but the PP is a bit stronger with thicker metal in several key areas.