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09-26-2022, 11:48 AM #1
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Broken Welds and Cracked Frame
Just returned from a lengthy trip across the country. Discovered a couple of broken welds where the front cross members are welded to the frame (lower front cap area behind the battery boxes) and cracked frames. Pics attached. I am not overloaded on the hitch and carry what I consider minimal weight in the pass through storage. All travel was on provincial highways and speeds were kept at or below the posted speed limit primarily due to fuel costs. Just myself and spouse so no significant contents over and above the normal things. Nothing on the back bumper other than the OEM spare tire. I believe there have been cracked frame and broken weld issues with GD before but not sure if any of them involved the Imagine XLS. I will be placing a call to them but wanted to get any feedback first from members here who may have some experience with this sort of issue.
Also, and unrelated to the frame cracks, I had a weld break on one of the two cross pieces that the battery boxes rest on. I was fortunate that only 1 of the 4 welds let loose as the one battery box was being held in place by the 2 screws into the cross piece and it was hanging precariously, somewhat supported by the propane line directly underneath it. Much further down the road I'm sure the entire set up would have given way, taking both batteries and the propane line with it. I secured the cross pieces well enough to get me back home but will have a welder strengthen things up properly. Might be a head's up for owners to double check the welds in this area.
Thanks for any feedback.
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09-26-2022, 01:11 PM #2
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Interesting.
I'll take a closer look at mine. I did look for the cross member flexing/bending in this area at I saw in another thread. Do you have any deformity other than the cracks?Robert and Chris
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09-26-2022, 01:22 PM #3
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There is quite a bit of rust throughout suggesting these are old. Could you have hit a really bad hole or section of road on a previous trip?
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09-26-2022, 02:47 PM #4
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09-26-2022, 03:04 PM #5
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Other than towing it home from the dealer to the storage lot last fall and then back to my house this spring, it hasn't been on the road until we took our trip this summer. I do know that the broken welds/cracks were not there when I purchased it nor when I departed on our trip this summer. The rust I believe is a bit misleading. We spent about 7 weeks on the east coast around the ocean and I'm convinced that even rubber will rust in that environment! I've noticed other metal items that were exposed, i.e. screw heads are showing surface rust. There was no one pot hole that was memorable however some highways were much worse than others. We did 21,400 kilometres over 75 days so there was no shortage of questionable highways.2021 Imagine XLS 22MLE
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09-26-2022, 04:28 PM #6
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You need to talk to GD customer service, assuming you bought this new.
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09-26-2022, 04:31 PM #7
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I'll guess these cracks are from stresses on the frame when backing up and/or taking sharpe front turns. The c-beam flexes causing the cracks. Time to box that section of the frame.
At least that looks like a c-beam. Probably need some photos from a distance rather than just the close close-ups.
I'm basing this guess on my experience with cracks in the webbing of my I-beams last summer. The shop that boxed my frame (about 6 to 8 feet of it on each side over the axels) said mine was from stresses produced when turning (forward and backwards).
Best get your rig to a good welding shop.Larry KE4DMG
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09-26-2022, 04:35 PM #8
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Unfortunately where you bought it used the structural warranty is null and void
I would just get a local welding shop to fix it up
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09-26-2022, 04:52 PM #9
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Depends where you live I guess, but that looks like pretty new/minimal rust to me?
I would drill the end of the crack to stop it from progressing, then get it welded up. If under warranty still, call GD first of course.
I know you don't like seeing it, but, pretty small job to fix up really. If you were close by I'd do it for free. But i'm in Ontario....2018 Dodge 3500 6.7 Cummins SRW w/Aisin
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09-26-2022, 05:40 PM #10
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Interesting point for sure. No doubt I've had some tight turns, especially backing into rv sites that are not pull through. Some parks have lots of room to manoeuvre, some don't. I've ruled out too much weight and no significant pot holes at speed so I guess this is a possibility. You'd think though that if tight backing turns cause this much stress on the frame that broken welds and cracked steel would be common place. I'll search out a good welding shop and go from there.
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