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    Should I use fresh water tank in cold night?

    Hi everyone,
    I’m going to Kentucky next week and I noticed the temperature may go under freeze point during night time. My rig has winter package heated underbelly so I was wonder if I should use water from fresh water tank instead of water hook up to avoid water hose get frozen? I mean fill up the tank during morning time and drain the water from hose.
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    If you don't have a heated water hose, filling the fresh tank and disconnecting the hose at night is the best approach for freezing weather. Also, make sure that your main furnace cycles (don't over-use the electric fireplace or space heaters). The LP furnace is the only thing that keeps your basement above freezing.

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    Exactly what Rob just said. We do it often.
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    Just like Rob said. Our nautilus water panel and water softener are inside the heated storage compartment. The storage compartment is heated by running our furnace. We have a remote thermometer transmitter in the storage bay that we can monitor from inside the RV, (La Crosse Technology) that way we can keep an eye on temps in the storage compartment and run the furnace when we need to. Surprisingly It stays pretty warm in the storage compartment. Right now the outside temp is 30*, Inside the RV is 66*, and the storage bay is 59*. You can connect multiple temp transmitters to the same monitor. If you do much winter camping this kind of monitoring system is great to keep an eye on temps.
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    We just spent 2 nights in Colorado's San Luis Valley where the night temps got to 16deg F. Fortunately, we had 50A power so we ran the fireplace and 2 small space heaters for the main room and bedroom. I set the main room temp to 60deg so the LP furnace came on when the space heaters couldn't keep up. That started happening around 3am. (I have the tank heaters on, of course)

    Evidentially the 60deg threshold wasn't high enough to keep the Nautilus area warm. Both mornings the pump struggled to get pressure to the spigots. I set the main room temp to 69deg this morning and after about 15 min of gas furnace activity, everything started flowing fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven@147 View Post
    We have a remote thermometer transmitter in the storage bay that we can monitor from inside the RV, (La Crosse Technology) that way we can keep an eye on temps in the storage compartment and run the furnace when we need to.
    This is a great idea so thanks for mentioning it. I have an Accur-Rite temp monitor for the fridge & freezer and it seems a temp sensor for the water/storage area is another needed item. Rather than another app/box/device/bluetooth/whatever, I'm thinking of getting the Lippert refrigerator sensor (which supposedly would work w/my OneControl) and putting it in the Nautilus area.

    https://store.lci1.com/lippert-one-t...sor-2021130659

    Has anyone done this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjbbrewer View Post
    We just spent 2 nights in Colorado's San Luis Valley where the night temps got to 16deg F. Fortunately, we had 50A power so we ran the fireplace and 2 small space heaters for the main room and bedroom. I set the main room temp to 60deg so the LP furnace came on when the space heaters couldn't keep up. That started happening around 3am. (I have the tank heaters on, of course)

    Evidentially the 60deg threshold wasn't high enough to keep the Nautilus area warm. Both mornings the pump struggled to get pressure to the spigots. I set the main room temp to 69deg this morning and after about 15 min of gas furnace activity, everything started flowing fine.



    This is a great idea so thanks for mentioning it. I have an Accur-Rite temp monitor for the fridge & freezer and it seems a temp sensor for the water/storage area is another needed item. Rather than another app/box/device/bluetooth/whatever, I'm thinking of getting the Lippert refrigerator sensor (which supposedly would work w/my OneControl) and putting it in the Nautilus area.

    https://store.lci1.com/lippert-one-t...sor-2021130659

    Has anyone done this?
    A cheap option:
    When we were in our 2019 motorhome the wet bay and basement area did not have any direct heat ducting from the furnace. Also no heat pads on the tanks. Seems weird compared to the ducts and heat pads on the Solitude, but I even checked with Newmar customer service and they confirmed.
    So the times we were in sub-freezing temps I just put a trouble light in the wet bay for supplemental heat. Bought a cheap indoor/outdoor thermometer from Walmart ($15 I think) so I could monitor from inside the coach. Worked fine, no freeze-ups and peace of mind.
    Then when in warmer temps the outdoor sending unit gets hung somewhere out of the sun and I have our outside temp available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smullinax View Post
    So the times we were in sub-freezing temps I just put a trouble light in the wet bay for supplemental heat.
    Just have to make sure that's not a fluorescent or led trouble light, right? ;-)

    Just to follow up on this - I kind of "make a couple of discoveries" today on my 349M.

    First, I took off the rear storage compartment wall and found that the grating between the bottom of the pantry and the storage compartment is just an air pass through. I thought it was a direct air intake to the furnace, but no. So in moderate freezing temps when I have electricity & I don't want to burn propane, I'll probably just keep that area unobstructed and leave the pantry door open. In deep sub freezing camping, I think I could put a small fan or space heater on the floor of the pantry and be good.

    Second, I figured out the electric fireplace doesn't blow warm air into the storage/wet bay area at all. I suspected that, but I confirmed it while climbing around in there.
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    Unless you leave a storage door open, that "air pass thru" is where the furnace will draw air from.
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    Does the furnace set to fan only circulate air to all ducts, including the storage bay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by easy_e View Post
    Does the furnace set to fan only circulate air to all ducts, including the storage bay?
    There is no fan-only setting for the furnace. If you set the thermostat to fan-only, it runs one of the AC fans on the roof. So, the answer to your question is, "No."

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