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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy Frood View Post
    I wouldn't use that spare tire until the problem with "lug nuts had difficulty snugging up to" was investigated and resolved. Maybe it isn't a trailer wheel and uses flat lug nuts. Definitely something to check out.
    Thanks, @Hoopy Frood The problem was with the rim. The lug nuts were beveled on the inside and fit nicely in the original rim. With the spare rim the bevel was clearly visible when tightened down. So they did not quite fit into the rim. Torqued to 120 Ft# and retorqued after a few miles. I think flat lug nuts would have been a better fit for the spare's rim.
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    Thank you for the expanded answer. Personally, I wouldn't use that rim for anything. It sounds like it isn't actually a trailer wheel. Those would be a standard lug pattern and you wouldn't notice any of the bevel visible. Since these wheels center themselves using the lug nuts, and not the center ring on the hub, a flat lug nut is not a good idea as the wheel would stand a good chance of not being centered on the hub, leading to problems. That's my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddyBob View Post
    Thanks, @Hoopy Frood The problem was with the rim. The lug nuts were beveled on the inside and fit nicely in the original rim. With the spare rim the bevel was clearly visible when tightened down. So they did not quite fit into the rim. Torqued to 120 Ft# and retorqued after a few miles. I think flat lug nuts would have been a better fit for the spare's rim.
    In think that is due to the spare being a hub centric rim vs the original rim being a lug centric. Definitely replace the spare rim with the correct style (which I am sure you already have done).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy Frood View Post
    Personally, I wouldn't use that rim for anything. It sounds like it isn't actually a trailer wheel. Those would be a standard lug pattern and you wouldn't notice any of the bevel visible.
    Thanks, I fully agree with you. It looks like a very inexpensive rim and is designed only for short-term use.
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    Thanks, Bill! Yes, the plan is to replace the rim before we take our rig out again. Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddyBob View Post
    Thanks, @Hoopy Frood The problem was with the rim. The lug nuts were beveled on the inside and fit nicely in the original rim. With the spare rim the bevel was clearly visible when tightened down. So they did not quite fit into the rim. Torqued to 120 Ft# and retorqued after a few miles. I think flat lug nuts would have been a better fit for the spare's rim.
    Your primary wheels are aluminum and use a conical (acorn) seat lugnut. All spares are mounted on painted steel wheels. They use the same lugnut but you will see some of the cone because there's no deeply machined seat on the steel wheel. When used by themselves, steel wheels get an open ended acorn lugnut with shallower cone but it's the same angle.
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    Thanks Rob! Good to know, I was not aware of that. Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddyBob View Post
    Thanks, Bill! Yes, the plan is to replace the rim before we take our rig out again. Bob
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    Thanks Rob! Good to know, I was not aware of that. Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaddyBob View Post
    Thanks Rob! Good to know, I was not aware of that. Bob
    You didn't say which engine you have in your RAM, but if it has the Aisin tranny, there is a TSB for the '22. Bad snap ring in the clutch, and when it fails, you get all the MIL's you are talking about, and most likely a new tranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wileykid View Post
    You didn't say which engine you have in your RAM, but if it has the Aisin tranny, there is a TSB for the '22. Bad snap ring in the clutch, and when it fails, you get all the MIL's you are talking about, and most likely a new tranny.
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