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03-24-2023, 08:59 PM #11
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Nice Luxe rig.. have fun
2021 Solitude S Class 3540GK
F-350 DRW Diesel
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03-24-2023, 11:09 PM #12
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Larry and JoAnna
‘23 Chevy 3500HD CCLB DRW High Country 6.6L Diesel, ‘22 Solitude 310GK-R, Hensley BD5
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03-25-2023, 03:58 AM #13
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Stay away from the trucks! Their showroom is nice and the RVs are nice, but their nothing totally "unique"; mostly the same components you're used to with some nicer touches. The trucks though, if you've never seen the interior of a converted semi hauler, here's a piece of advice. Don't! Man are they spectacular, comfortable and appear well built and ready to roll 100K miles a year with a RV in tow without blinking an eye. "Big Cheddar" will probably be there; you won't miss it, that much I can promise you (it's a bright yellow/cheese colored semi!). My wife loves stuff like soft touch walls and solid countertops; I like trucks that can haul 40K+ without batting an eye.
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03-25-2023, 05:55 AM #14
Looks like a nice setup from the pictures. Is there much of a weight difference, do you have to upgrade your truck too? Feel free to stay and post more pictures, and of course, continue to participate here.
2023 Momentum 398M-R
2023 Ford F-450
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03-25-2023, 06:35 AM #15
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Pretty significant weight difference. The GD was a 16,800 max, this is a 24K max. These things are known to be pin heavy, so I'm expecting 4K+ on the hitch. The only real upgrade left for us as far as trucks go is into a semi. While I'd love that for hauling, our F450 is just more practical for what we do; I can just picture trying to park a semi at a trailhead 10 miles back on a gravel road. Not exactly going to work!
I have a 26K tandem dual dump trailer I haul with the F450. No idea the pin weight on it other than "a lot"; it varies, of course, based on how it's loaded. Sometimes the gravel guys dump up front (I swear, it must be fun for them to watch the trucks squat). With a full 26K behind the truck loaded pin heavy, the F450 will hit the overloads. I have bags on the truck, so when the gravel guys get crazy, I'll often add enough air to give myself around 1" of air on the overloads. Tows that well; and I have to believe the Luxe will be a LOT better than my dump trailer. IS suspension and, most importantly, disc brakes.
We'll see how it does. I realize you can get more stated payload in something like a chassis cab, but I don't see a ton of additional "beef" there for the increased rating. A F450 PU is a "class queen" similar to a F250; they are not rated by what they can do, they are rated to max out the class (14K lbs in the case of the 450). My truck has a payload of almost 5K, so I suspect, depending on loading, we'll hover right around "at capacity" loaded up and ready to camp.
I'll weigh it, of course; both because I'm curious but also to get a sense for the load on the tires so I can figure how how much pressure should be in the rears. We typically keep our rears at 70PSI, the minimum for the tire; which gets us a tire capacity of 10,880 on the rears. Taking them up to 80 gets us 12,000 on the rear tires. Up to 110 gets an absolutely ridiculous 15,000 lb rear tire capacity.
While this hopefully won't start us into everyone's favorite (including mine) enough truck or not discussion; the basic way I look at "can I tow it safely" comes down to this:
1) What can the tires handle
2) What can the axle handle
3) What can the hitch attachment point handle
4) Can I slow it down effectively
In this case, I'm comfortable with the to all of those with the 450; tires are good, axle is good, hitch attachment is good, and slowing should be, if anything, better than my GD because of the disc brakes. Suspension is an easy fix if it's not up to task; truck already has bags that are rated for 5K (with 7.5's available).
Long way of saying, "we'll see". I'm also moving to a Hensley hitch, which is going to add another ~200 lbs to the bed, so that's not going to help with payload, but hopefully will help actually keep some of the forces off the moving components of the truck.
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03-25-2023, 07:13 AM #16
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It most definitely will. It removes the abrupt shock load between the two. I have a BD5 and love it. It moves quite a bit while towing, and the first hard bridge approach you hit, you will be glad you have it for the sake of the trailer. That hitch links two expensive toys.
Larry and JoAnna
‘23 Chevy 3500HD CCLB DRW High Country 6.6L Diesel, ‘22 Solitude 310GK-R, Hensley BD5
MORRyde 8k IS, QD8000 Genny, Dual 5kVA Quattros
Dual SOK 48V 100ah Server Rack Batts (10kWHr)
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03-25-2023, 07:23 AM #17
I don't want this to be a weight based thread either, was more curious. Glad to hear the 450 handles so well, I have a 23 on order which is currently scheduled to be built week of 4/3 (only been rescheduled once so far [emoji1696] ) and I'm looking forward to towing with it. My Silverado DRW handles the 398 great, so shouldnt be any issue with the 450.
I agree with you on the semi, probably would be great for your trailer, but it isn't always practical where you go.
We also considered something like a converted hauler or an older M2, but we are a family of 6 and I have yet to see an M2 with a front bench seat. I know some of the semis can fit a 4 seat bench in the back, but we decided the traditional truck was the best option overall.2023 Momentum 398M-R
2023 Ford F-450
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03-25-2023, 08:22 AM #18
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It's all good.
You are just a SOB member now.....Some Other Brand.Steve- Inventory Manager at Tom Schaeffer's RV, Shoemakersville, PA www.tomschaeffers.com
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03-25-2023, 08:33 AM #19
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Glad to hear the 450 handles so well, I have a 23 on order which is currently scheduled to be built week of 4/3 (only been rescheduled once so far )
I wish Ford would come out with something more capable in the pickup line with air ride suspension (like Kelderman offers aftermarket, and like all semis have from the factory). That would be a really nice truck for towing the bigger RVs without moving to a semi. And it's obviously possible because you can get it from aftermarket suppliers. Sadly, very few of them can "resticker" the truck for a higher rating even after extensive suspension work to make the truck more capable. Ford wouldn't have that problem.
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03-25-2023, 08:35 AM #20
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