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    TurningPoint hitch Trailer jumps to side on curved on ramps Normal?

    Hi everyone
    I have a 2022 Reflection 150 series 5th wheel 295RL with the turningpoint. In my F250 I have the patriot 18K.

    When going on long curved on ramps often somewhere along the turn there is a somewhat jarring thump as if the camper moved in a direction other than tracking behind me

    Yesterday this occurred and I happeded to be looking in the rear view mirror. I watched the front of the camper shift maybe 3-4 to the right.

    Is anyone else experiencing this and is it normal?

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    I am trying to insert a picture of the turningpoint wedge setup, but cannot figure out how to insert a picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laffofpa View Post
    Hi everyone
    I have a 2022 Reflection 150 series 5th wheel 295RL with the turningpoint. In my F250 I have the patriot 18K.

    When going on long curved on ramps often somewhere along the turn there is a somewhat jarring thump as if the camper moved in a direction other than tracking behind me

    Yesterday this occurred and I happeded to be looking in the rear view mirror. I watched the front of the camper shift maybe 3-4” to the right.

    Is anyone else experiencing this and is it normal?
    I hat to tell you this, but you Patriot Hitch https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/sit...nual%20web.pdf is NOT rated to use a wedge.

    WARNING! DO NOT USE A WEDGE
    Preventing the kingpin
    from rotating within the
    jaws of the Companion
    coupler with a wedge, or
    any other device, such
    as Reese Sidewinder
    or Reese Revolution,
    could result in property
    damage, serious injury
    or death.

    I suspect there is a fitment issue between the wedge and hitch plate. Look for damage there. OR The bearing on the turning point is binding up causing the shift. With it disconnected from the truck does it swing freely. Last check you trailer axles for alignment as the trailer may be trying to track differently from the truck.

    Sorry for the bad news. You can call B&W too as the have great customer service.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th wheel. B&W 25K OEM Companion, Steadyfast system, 2022 F350 SRW 6.7 King Ranch 8' bed, Trailer reverse lights, rear spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus and Solar

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    I am sitting here stunned, this is the hitch Tom Schaeffers in Hamburg PA sold me and installed when I purchased the camper from them, thank you for the info

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    I am at the tail end of a 3 month 8K trip with the camper and have about 500 miles till home. Can I/Should I take the wedge out and move the bolts to make it a normal connection instead of a turning point. I do realize I will have to be very careful not to break my back window when turning

    Also, if the camper was not tracking straight, would I have uneven tread wear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laffofpa View Post
    I am at the tail end of a 3 month 8K trip with the camper and have about 500 miles till home. Can I/Should I take the wedge out and move the bolts to make it a normal connection instead of a turning point. I do realize I will have to be very careful not to break my back window when turning

    Also, if the camper was not tracking straight, would I have uneven tread wear?
    I would based on your description of what is happening.
    You may be very surprised at the turning room you actually have. GD's nose design is very forgiving. Have a spotter watch for you the first few times. Forward towing and turns should not be a problem, just sharp angle backing. Is the hitch head set to the furthers rear position? That would help.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th wheel. B&W 25K OEM Companion, Steadyfast system, 2022 F350 SRW 6.7 King Ranch 8' bed, Trailer reverse lights, rear spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus and Solar

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerscol View Post
    I would based on your description of what is happening.
    You may be very surprised at the turning room you actually have. GD's nose design is very forgiving. Have a spotter watch for you the first few times. Forward towing and turns should not be a problem, just sharp angle backing. Is the hitch head set to the furthers rear position? That would help.
    The turning point on my 150 series is locked and so far I haven't had any issues with sharp turns. I agree with @powerscol, you'll most likely be safer with the TP locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laffofpa View Post
    Hi everyone
    I have a 2022 Reflection 150 series 5th wheel 295RL with the turningpoint. In my F250 I have the patriot 18K.

    When going on long curved on ramps often somewhere along the turn there is a somewhat jarring thump as if the camper moved in a direction other than tracking behind me

    Yesterday this occurred and I happeded to be looking in the rear view mirror. I watched the front of the camper shift maybe 3-4” to the right.

    Is anyone else experiencing this and is it normal?
    What you are describing sounds like a loose wedge. Remove the top section of the Patriot and slide it onto the pin. It should fit fairly snug with very little side to side movement.

    As to whether or not your hitch is compatible - that depends on exactly what you have. I would contact B&W directly and ask. I have their Companion with puck system for Ram. When I contacted B&W, they told me I could use it with my Reese Sidewinder as long as I used the correct wedge.
    2022 Ram 2500 4x4, 6.7 Cummins, RamBox, Air Lift 5000 Ultimate Plus, B&W Companion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomani View Post
    What you are describing sounds like a loose wedge. Remove the top section of the Patriot and slide it onto the pin. It should fit fairly snug with very little side to side movement.

    As to whether or not your hitch is compatible - that depends on exactly what you have. I would contact B&W directly and ask. I have their Companion with puck system for Ram. When I contacted B&W, they told me I could use it with my Reese Sidewinder as long as I used the correct wedge.
    Patriot manual specifically says don't use a wedge. I believe the Companion, like I have too is a different head. But could be wrong. Depending on the OP truck he may not need the turning point as @Soundsailor mentions. I have my turning point also locked out, but I have a long bed.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th wheel. B&W 25K OEM Companion, Steadyfast system, 2022 F350 SRW 6.7 King Ranch 8' bed, Trailer reverse lights, rear spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus and Solar

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    Thanks for all the quick feedback. There is a dealership next to campground, but the service tech only there till noon.

    I sent an email to B&W, they are not there today.

    Just re-torqued the wedge bolts, the one closest to the camper was quite loose now at 200#.

    I have an appt at my RV service shop and will talk to them

    Thanks again

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