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    TurningPoint hitch Trailer jumps to side on curved on ramps… Normal?

    Hi everyone
    I have a 2022 Reflection 150 series 5th wheel 295RL with the turningpoint. In my F250 I have the patriot 18K.

    When going on long curved on ramps often somewhere along the turn there is a somewhat jarring thump as if the camper moved in a direction other than tracking behind me

    Yesterday this occurred and I happeded to be looking in the rear view mirror. I watched the front of the camper shift maybe 3-4” to the right.

    Is anyone else experiencing this and is it normal?

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    I am trying to insert a picture of the turningpoint wedge setup, but cannot figure out how to insert a picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laffofpa View Post
    I am trying to insert a picture of the turningpoint wedge setup, but cannot figure out how to insert a picture
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    Here is a picture of the hitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laffofpa View Post
    Hi everyone
    I have a 2022 Reflection 150 series 5th wheel 295RL with the turningpoint. In my F250 I have the patriot 18K.

    When going on long curved on ramps often somewhere along the turn there is a somewhat jarring thump as if the camper moved in a direction other than tracking behind me

    Yesterday this occurred and I happeded to be looking in the rear view mirror. I watched the front of the camper shift maybe 3-4” to the right.

    Is anyone else experiencing this and is it normal?
    I hat to tell you this, but you Patriot Hitch https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/sit...nual%20web.pdf is NOT rated to use a wedge.

    WARNING! DO NOT USE A WEDGE
    Preventing the kingpin
    from rotating within the
    jaws of the Companion
    coupler with a wedge, or
    any other device, such
    as Reese Sidewinder®
    or Reese Revolution®,
    could result in property
    damage, serious injury
    or death.

    I suspect there is a fitment issue between the wedge and hitch plate. Look for damage there. OR The bearing on the turning point is binding up causing the shift. With it disconnected from the truck does it swing freely. Last check you trailer axles for alignment as the trailer may be trying to track differently from the truck.

    Sorry for the bad news. You can call B&W too as the have great customer service.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th wheel with 6K axle upgrade. B&W 25K OEM Companion, Steadyfast system, 2022 F350 SRW 6.7 King Ranch 8' bed, Trailer reverse lights, rear spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, and Solar

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerscol View Post
    I hat to tell you this, but you Patriot Hitch https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/sit...nual%20web.pdf is NOT rated to use a wedge.

    WARNING! DO NOT USE A WEDGE
    Preventing the kingpin
    from rotating within the
    jaws of the Companion
    coupler with a wedge, or
    any other device, such
    as Reese Sidewinder®
    or Reese Revolution®,
    could result in property
    damage, serious injury
    or death.

    I suspect there is a fitment issue between the wedge and hitch plate. Look for damage there. OR The bearing on the turning point is binding up causing the shift. With it disconnected from the truck does it swing freely. Last check you trailer axles for alignment as the trailer may be trying to track differently from the truck.

    Sorry for the bad news. You can call B&W too as the have great customer service.
    He has a Companion hitch for OEM mounts.
    Steve- Inventory Manager at Tom Schaeffer's RV, Shoemakersville, PA www.tomschaeffers.com
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    2011 RAM 3500 SRW Outdoorsman Edition 4X4, 6.7 Cummins--TWEAKED!
    2021 Reflection 310RLS

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    Here is the link to the 18k Patriot
    https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/sit...structions.pdf

    WARNING: Towing a trailer without a functioning pivot point between the hitch & trailer will cause significant damage to the hitch which may lead to serious injury or death. Some pin boxes such as a Pull−rite® Superglide Capture Plate remove the pivot point between a trailer and coupler and should not be used, See Figure F1. Pin boxes with a wedge that relocates the pivot point such as a Reese® Sidewinder or Reese® Revolution may be used, see Figure F2.

    Sorry I couldn’t paste figure 2 but the Reese Sidewider functions similar to the turning point. Which is an acceptable setup for the Patriot.
    Last edited by traveldawg; 04-03-2023 at 02:34 PM. Reason: released from moderation - it goes there for new users who post URLs...

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    I am sitting here stunned, this is the hitch Tom Schaeffer’s in Hamburg PA sold me and installed when I purchased the camper from them, thank you for the info

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    I am at the tail end of a 3 month 8K trip with the camper and have about 500 miles till home. Can I/Should I take the wedge out and move the bolts to make it a normal connection instead of a turning point. I do realize I will have to be very careful not to break my back window when turning

    Also, if the camper was not tracking straight, would I have uneven tread wear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laffofpa View Post
    I am at the tail end of a 3 month 8K trip with the camper and have about 500 miles till home. Can I/Should I take the wedge out and move the bolts to make it a normal connection instead of a turning point. I do realize I will have to be very careful not to break my back window when turning

    Also, if the camper was not tracking straight, would I have uneven tread wear?
    I would based on your description of what is happening.
    You may be very surprised at the turning room you actually have. GD's nose design is very forgiving. Have a spotter watch for you the first few times. Forward towing and turns should not be a problem, just sharp angle backing. Is the hitch head set to the furthers rear position? That would help.
    2018 Reflection 150 Series 220RK 5th wheel with 6K axle upgrade. B&W 25K OEM Companion, Steadyfast system, 2022 F350 SRW 6.7 King Ranch 8' bed, Trailer reverse lights, rear spare tire holder, storage tube, sumo springs, Victron MultiPlus 12/120/3000, and Solar

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerscol View Post
    I would based on your description of what is happening.
    You may be very surprised at the turning room you actually have. GD's nose design is very forgiving. Have a spotter watch for you the first few times. Forward towing and turns should not be a problem, just sharp angle backing. Is the hitch head set to the furthers rear position? That would help.
    The turning point on my 150 series is locked and so far I haven't had any issues with sharp turns. I agree with @powerscol, you'll most likely be safer with the TP locked.
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