Considering an upgrade to a fifth wheel Reflection??

[TheHulk]

I've towed the 260RD with both an F-150 and an F-350. Towed it from Omaha, NE to Lexington, KY with the F-150 and it did fine. I didn't weigh my truck and camper just because I knew I was over on payload. Towing capacity is almost a useless number because you'll nearly always exceed payload before towing capacity. My payload on the F-150 was 1,742. Payload on my F-350 is slightly over 4,000. I upgraded because (1) exceeding payload made me nervous and (2) I just like the Super Duty.
I really like our 260RD but would have considered the 270BN had it been available when we bought ours because the 270BN gives you access to the bathroom while the slide is still in.
We had a nice Flagstaff trailer before this. While the trailer was great quality, we won't go back to a travel trailer. Hookup and towing is so much easier with the fifth wheel. Also, you should check out the Andersen hitch. It weighs about 35 lbs so I can put it in the truck bed myself. It will save you some payload if you decide to stick with the half ton truck.

[goducks14]

8600 lbs loaded equates to a 1720 lb pin weight. Do you have 1720 lbs plus ??? lbs for passengers and 5th hitch in the truck?
Even at the minimum of 15% for pin you'll be at 1290 lbs. The OEM dry pin is 1269 lbs. No way will you just add 21 lbs to the pin. How much stuff will you put in the front of the 5er in the cargo bays and in the bedroom? Add in the 5th hitch at 175 lbs, propane at 60 lbs, two batteries at 100 lbs and now you're at 1604 lbs and you haven't put anything in the 5th wheel. Add in two people in the truck at 350 lbs. That puts you at 1954 lbs in the truck.
It ain't happening.
Need to tell us what the CCC is for the truck.

[TheHulk]

8600 lbs loaded equates to a 1720 lb pin weight. Do you have 1720 lbs plus ??? lbs for passengers and 5th hitch in the truck?
Even at the minimum of 15% for pin you'll be at 1290 lbs. The OEM dry pin is 1269 lbs. No way will you just add 21 lbs to the pin. How much stuff will you put in the front of the 5er in the cargo bays and in the bedroom? Add in the 5th hitch at 175 lbs, propane at 60 lbs, two batteries at 100 lbs and now you're at 1604 lbs and you haven't put anything in the 5th wheel. Add in two people in the truck at 350 lbs. That puts you at 1954 lbs in the truck.
It ain't happening.
Need to tell us what the CCC is for the truck.

This is the reason I upgraded to an F-350. There might be half ton trucks out there that will tow the 150 series of fifth wheel but it's a really rare half ton that has that kind of payload.

[Mark_270BN]

I recently purchased a 270BN and pull it with a 2022 RAM 2500 Cummins. It barely makes the technical requirement of 10k GVWR (CAT scaled it). I have no idea what 1/2 ton truck out there could pull this trailer and be under it's GVWR.

That said, I also don't fully understand how a truck has a GVWR of 10,000lbs yet has a front GAWR of 6,000 and rear GAWR of 6,040lbs. Other than, I believe it is a technicality (read legality) that the GVWR be set at 10,000lbs to meet the 3/4 ton classification.

[Mark_270BN]

I've towed the 260RD with both an F-150 and an F-350. Towed it from Omaha, NE to Lexington, KY with the F-150 and it did fine. I didn't weigh my truck and camper just because I knew I was over on payload. Towing capacity is almost a useless number because you'll nearly always exceed payload before towing capacity. My payload on the F-150 was 1,742. Payload on my F-350 is slightly over 4,000. I upgraded because (1) exceeding payload made me nervous and (2) I just like the Super Duty.
I really like our 260RD but would have considered the 270BN had it been available when we bought ours because the 270BN gives you access to the bathroom while the slide is still in.
We had a nice Flagstaff trailer before this. While the trailer was great quality, we won't go back to a travel trailer. Hookup and towing is so much easier with the fifth wheel. Also, you should check out the Andersen hitch. It weighs about 35 lbs so I can put it in the truck bed myself. It will save you some payload if you decide to stick with the half ton truck.

That is a really good point about access with the slide in on the 260RD! I looked at the 270BN, liked it and considered waiting to see a 260RD before purchasing the 270 (there were no 260s on the lot as they said they were popular) but I bet I would've missed the fact that the stairs are blocked on the 260 with the slide closed. Guess I got lucky, cause not having that access with the slide in would have been a problem for me.

[Chris Paul]

I've done some looking at the specs on my truck.

2015 Ford F-150, 4x4, Supercrew
145 Wheelbase
3.5L V-6 Ecoboost
Electronic 6 Speed Auto with Tow Mode

3.55 Rear Axle
7000# GVWR package
Max Trailer Tow Package

Door sticker says payload is 1759, according to Ford specs with the Max Trailer Tow Package it is 2020.

Tow max weight is 12200 according to Ford specs.

[goducks14]

I've done some looking at the specs on my truck.

2015 Ford F-150, 4x4, Supercrew
145 Wheelbase
3.5L V-6 Ecoboost
Electronic 6 Speed Auto with Tow Mode

3.55 Rear Axle
7000# GVWR package
Max Trailer Tow Package

Door sticker says payload is 1759, according to Ford specs with the Max Trailer Tow Package it is 2020.

Tow max weight is 12200 according to Ford specs.

1759 is the one to use. Ford specs aren't for every truck. The specs on brochure pages are for a base XL. Once you climb up the option levels more weight is added.
Best thing to do is load up what you can and get your truck weighed to get a real world number to use. My guess is that with 1759 lbs for CCC you are under what's needed for that 5er.

[Soundsailor]

I've done some looking at the specs on my truck.

2015 Ford F-150, 4x4, Supercrew
145 Wheelbase
3.5L V-6 Ecoboost
Electronic 6 Speed Auto with Tow Mode

3.55 Rear Axle
7000# GVWR package
Max Trailer Tow Package

Door sticker says payload is 1759, according to Ford specs with the Max Trailer Tow Package it is 2020.

Tow max weight is 12200 according to Ford specs.

You might try this calculator: https://changingears.com/weight-calc...ht-calculator/

[Redapple63]

I've done some looking at the specs on my truck.

2015 Ford F-150, 4x4, Supercrew
145 Wheelbase
3.5L V-6 Ecoboost
Electronic 6 Speed Auto with Tow Mode

3.55 Rear Axle
7000# GVWR package
Max Trailer Tow Package

Door sticker says payload is 1759, according to Ford specs with the Max Trailer Tow Package it is 2020.

Tow max weight is 12200 according to Ford specs.

Hi Chris Paul,

Right out of the gate, if you use the GVWR of 9495, the minimum pin weight of 20% or .2 of trailer weight at GVWR will be 1899.

The 260rd has a “CCC” of 2188lbs, so, yes you could make the 1/2 ton work within your limits if you are careful with your loading. That could be a bit of a challenge due to the UVW not including batteries or propane tanks which will eat away that 2k trailer payload. You may also want to tow with water if you are boondocking.
This will leave you with some difficult choices.
I think it’s ok to be a bit over within reason and common sense. This rig has the potential to make your current 1/2 Ton way overloaded (at least on paper), and there may be some wiggle room there, but in my opinion, not enough.

You could go to 3/4 ton gas and it may only feel marginally better from a power perspective, but it will have beefier frame, springs and brakes and ultimately be safer. The ten speed trans will also help to keep it in the right gear from a torque and hp perspective .My recommendation to you is minimum 3/4 ton gasser. I will even submit the price difference between 3/4 and 1 ton is nominal and in reality 1 ton gas for you would be the answer.

You have options.

Good Luck with your decision and please touch back with what you ultimately decide.

Bill

[NB Canada]

I've done some looking at the specs on my truck.

2015 Ford F-150, 4x4, Supercrew
145 Wheelbase
3.5L V-6 Ecoboost
Electronic 6 Speed Auto with Tow Mode

3.55 Rear Axle
7000# GVWR package
Max Trailer Tow Package

Door sticker says payload is 1759, according to Ford specs with the Max Trailer Tow Package it is 2020.

Tow max weight is 12200 according to Ford specs.

So now you have your answer

There is no way your truck is a fit for a 260 rd or any fifth wheel

Guaranteed your payload is less than 1759 and the 260 will have a dry weight close to 1400
You haven’t even added a hitch yet

If the 260rd is what you want you should be deciding what Color your new truck will be