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    Angry Screw Head Types....

    Can someone please explain to me why we need 50 different screw head types? I understand the need for different torque requirements but c'mon, man. Do you mean to tell me we can't get the same results with just a standard hardened Phillips head on 99% of the stuff out there? I have to carry a smorgasbord of screw heads to work on stuff. If I don't have it with me I have to run to a hardware store to get the right size of the particular head. What a pain!

    OK, I'm done. Time for my meds.... Carry on.
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    It's a combination union and Snap-on Tools thing, job security!
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    Hey Dean,

    Good rant .

    From the "outside looking in", the problem is that the US is the only country in the world not using the metric system of fasteners. The Phillips screw head was never a good design. The driver "cams out" really easily, particularly if the driver is worn at all. The Robertson (Canadian designed square drive) screws that hold your Grand Design together will not cam out and the driver will hold the screw, so you can install it with one hand.

    So endeth the " counter rant" .

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    So its a Canada thing. Don
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cate&Rob View Post
    Hey Dean,

    Good rant .

    From the "outside looking in", the problem is that the US is the only country in the world not using the metric system of fasteners. The Phillips screw head was never a good design. The driver "cams out" really easily, particularly if the driver is worn at all. The Robertson (Canadian designed square drive) screws that hold your Grand Design together will not cam out and the driver will hold the screw, so you can install it with one hand.

    So endeth the " counter rant" .



    Rob
    Leave it to my fellow Canuck Rob to beat me to the screw head history lesson. Long live the Robertson !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cate&Rob View Post
    Hey Dean,

    Good rant .

    From the "outside looking in", the problem is that the US is the only country in the world not using the metric system of fasteners. The Phillips screw head was never a good design. The driver "cams out" really easily, particularly if the driver is worn at all. The Robertson (Canadian designed square drive) screws that hold your Grand Design together will not cam out and the driver will hold the screw, so you can install it with one hand.

    So endeth the " counter rant" .

    Rob
    I have to agree. Stainless Phillips seem to be the worst. Metric is the way to go unfortunately US sticks to it along with the dreaded slot head.
    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cate&Rob View Post
    Hey Dean,

    Good rant .

    From the "outside looking in", the problem is that the US is the only country in the world not using the metric system of fasteners. The Phillips screw head was never a good design. The driver "cams out" really easily, particularly if the driver is worn at all. The Robertson (Canadian designed square drive) screws that hold your Grand Design together will not cam out and the driver will hold the screw, so you can install it with one hand.

    So endeth the " counter rant" .

    Rob

    Man, I have built a lot of stuff (metal and wood) and Phillips head had always done just fine. The plastic LPG support strap broke and I wanted to replace the straps. The #2 square head rounded out the screw head. I couldn't get them out. It is a mess. I used some Phillips self tapping screws next to it. I know what you saying but Phillips has worked forever. I hate having to use so many heads for what seems to be simple uses. But, I guess that's just me.
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    It may be Canadian, but the Robertson head seems to be the RV industry standard. Only 2 sizes in my whole rig, so it's nice to just need 2 head sizes.


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    I prefer the Torx screw head myself. Automotive folks made me like them because there must be 8 different size heads requiring a different driver every time I turn around !!
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    Rob-- if I had 1/2 your intelligence I would be 3 times as smart ! -- is my math correct ? -- not factoring in the exchange rate of course !

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