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    Hello All, I just purchased a brand new Solitude 380FL, my tow vehicle is a 2024 chevy Silverado 3500 SWR, I have a 25k B&W non slider and have 5th wheel/truck cab clearance issues. I'm looking at getting an auto slider. Any suggestions? forgot to mention truck has 6'-6" box
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    Thread moved to Fifth Wheel Hitching Topics.

    The B&W auto-slider is very popular with forum members... it is also very heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungy View Post
    I love my Pullrite.
    I heard they were good, what tow vehicle are you using with which trailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave N View Post
    I heard they were good, what tow vehicle are you using with which trailer?
    SB Dodge w/ Solitude 373

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave N View Post
    Hello All, I just purchased a brand new Solitude 380FL, my tow vehicle is a 2024 chevy Silverado 3500 SWR, I have a 25k B&W non slider and have 5th wheel/truck cab clearance issues. I'm looking at getting an auto slider. Any suggestions? forgot to mention truck has 6'-6" box
    With a SRW truck and the Solitude 380FL you are going to be way over your payload if you go with a slider hitch, may already be. I am surprised that with the adjustment on the B&W (Companion) that you are having clearance issues. Maybe you don't have the Companion. I used the B&W Companion and adjusted so that it is 7" back and never had an issue. Even went to 5" back adjustment and still didn't have an issue in my RAM 3500. Now that I have the factory puck system I went with the Curt Crosswing. It gives 9" of offset from connection points for more turning clearance which is in the range of a slider hitch. It is under 100 lbs so give payload back and does not void the frame warranty from Lippert since Curt is a Lippert Company. The only thing you need to be aware of is that Morryde recommends changing the skid plate on you pin box out for the heavy duty RPB77-006 which I had to do. I have lots of clearance now. Not sure if I can turn a full 90 degrees but have gotten into many tight campsites without and issues.

    PM me if you need any additonal info as I have had discussions with both Curt and Morryde with the combination and I think you will find it fixes your clearance issues and will help with payload on your SRW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave N View Post
    Hello All, I just purchased a brand new Solitude 380FL, my tow vehicle is a 2024 chevy Silverado 3500 SWR, I have a 25k B&W non slider and have 5th wheel/truck cab clearance issues. I'm looking at getting an auto slider. Any suggestions? forgot to mention truck has 6'-6" box
    I have a 23 F250 SB 4x4 CREW and Demco 18k Autoslider (also comes in a 21k version). The Demco's base has 3 height adjustments. We used the lowest setting which works both for our Retrax bed cover and pinbox-to-bed clearances.

    Features I like: Its a true auto-slider meaning one doesnt have to exit the vehicle to set it in/out slide operation. Easy to work on and keep lubed. Fairly easy to engage the king pin even at a "slight" angle to the pinbox. Its operation is quiet and smooth.

    It is a well-built heavy hitch and removal (fully assembled) will likely take 2 people to do. Had it for a year now and it has worked flawlessly. Would recommend if needing a "auto-slider" in a short bed truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calbar View Post
    With a SRW truck and the Solitude 380FL you are going to be way over your payload if you go with a slider hitch, may already be. I am surprised that with the adjustment on the B&W (Companion) that you are having clearance issues. Maybe you don't have the Companion. I used the B&W Companion and adjusted so that it is 7" back and never had an issue. Even went to 5" back adjustment and still didn't have an issue in my RAM 3500. Now that I have the factory puck system I went with the Curt Crosswing. It gives 9" of offset from connection points for more turning clearance which is in the range of a slider hitch. It is under 100 lbs so give payload back and does not void the frame warranty from Lippert since Curt is a Lippert Company. The only thing you need to be aware of is that Morryde recommends changing the skid plate on you pin box out for the heavy duty RPB77-006 which I had to do. I have lots of clearance now. Not sure if I can turn a full 90 degrees but have gotten into many tight campsites without and issues.

    PM me if you need any additonal info as I have had discussions with both Curt and Morryde with the combination and I think you will find it fixes your clearance issues and will help with payload on your SRW.

    Rob
    I have the B&W 25k for OEM puck system which only allows for 2" of rearward adjustment, also I have a payload 4275, and 21800 5th wheel/gooseneck towing, I'm hoping that's enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave N View Post
    I have the B&W 25k for OEM puck system which only allows for 2" of rearward adjustment, also I have a payload 4275, and 21800 5th wheel/gooseneck towing, I'm hoping that's enough.
    A loaded fifth wheel typically puts around 23% of it's loaded weight (we'll use the 18,000 lbs. GVWR here) on the pin. In the case of the 380FL, that would be 4,140 lbs. Add in the weight of a hitch, passengers, gear, etc., and you'll be over your payload. It's not about towing capacity with fifth wheels - it's about payload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave N View Post
    I have the B&W 25k for OEM puck system which only allows for 2" of rearward adjustment, also I have a payload 4275, and 21800 5th wheel/gooseneck towing, I'm hoping that's enough.
    If you have the OEM puck system in you GMC then you can get 7" of extra clearance over your B&W with the Crosswing and mount it using the gooseneck ball. That should give you more than enough clearance. On my Ram my box is sorter than you GMC and my gooseneck ball is 2" in front of my axle and I have enough clearance with my 378MBS and I am not carrying the extra 2-300 lbs of a slider hitch. It also helps with clearance to the tailgate when I open my front compartment. As @Second Chance said even with your payload rating you will be very close of overweight as that's the first thing to be over. I am at or just over my 3840 payload and I pack light and use a 100 lb hitch. Your payload will need all the help you can give it and a slider is not going to help with that, just make it worse.

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