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    Finish on kitchen island doesn't stand up to water

    I don't know why a different finish was chosen for the kitchen island in our 2016 Reflection 337RLS than for the rest of the woodwork, but it acts like cheap shoe polish when water gets on it. There are streaks down the inside of the cabinet doors and, if any water is splashed while washing dishes and runs down the outside, it picks up the stain from the cabinet and ends up as a dark puddle on the floor. This will stain the floor permanently if not cleaned up immediately (ask me how I know...).

    My question for Grand Design (Janice) is this: was is the type of dark finish on the kitchen island (doesn't seem to be oil-based) and what type of clear coating would be safe to put over it to make it waterproof and stop the collateral damage?

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    Rob

    EDIT: My wife just brought it to my attention that much of the trim has a semi-gloss, sealed finished on it; the panels, for the most part, are the areas where you can just rub off black finish/stain with your finger or a paper towel. it's a real mess!
    Last edited by Second Chance; 10-26-2015 at 07:04 PM. Reason: Add information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Chance View Post
    I don't know why a different finish was chosen for the kitchen island in our 2016 Reflection 337RLS than for the rest of the woodwork, but it acts like cheap shoe polish when water gets on it. There are streaks down the inside of the cabinet doors and, if any water is splashed while washing dishes and runs down the outside, it picks up the stain from the cabinet and ends up as a dark puddle on the floor. This will stain the floor permanently if not cleaned up immediately (ask me how I know...).

    My question for Grand Design (Janice) is this: was is the type of dark finish on the kitchen island (doesn't seem to be oil-based) and what type of clear coating would be safe to put over it to make it waterproof and stop the collateral damage?

    Thanks,

    Rob

    EDIT: My wife just brought it to my attention that much of the trim has a semi-gloss, sealed finished on it; the panels, for the most part, are the areas where you can just rub off black finish/stain with your finger or a paper towel. it's a real mess!

    Hi Rob (@Second Chance),

    I will need your unit VIN to research this for your RV. Please add your 17-digit RV VIN to the "About Me" section of your forum profile and reply back to this post to let me know it is done, or send me a private message with your VIN, name and phone number. Thank you in advance...

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    Janice,

    I just added our VIN to my profile and PMed you with the VIN and my phone number. Thanks for looking into this.

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    It almost looks like a white melamine bead board that's had a latex stain applied to it. I've been very careful with mine not to have to clean it very hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaman View Post
    It almost looks like a white melamine bead board that's had a latex stain applied to it. I've been very careful with mine not to have to clean it very hard.
    x2 on Bamaman's comment. The finish on our island is very soft and almost looks like it never got it's "top coat". Wiping it with a dry cloth picks up stain.

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    I haven't seen that problem on the island in our 337, but I do see it on the bathroom vanity.
    Drop a bit of water on the front of the vanity, try to wipe it off, and the stain comes right off.

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    I have the same problem in our 2016 29 RS which we have had for about two weeks. I wipe up any water that gets on the island cabinet doors the paper towel is black. Very poor finish on the island cabinet. The other cabinets have a quality finish. Would love to know if a finish canbe applied to keep the stain from coming off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Chance View Post
    Janice,

    I just added our VIN to my profile and PMed you with the VIN and my phone number. Thanks for looking into this.

    Rob
    Hi Rob (@Second Chance),

    Thank you. I will research this with our supplier, and keep you posted. Or alternatively, you may also want to check with your local paint or hardware store to see if they offer a close match -- if so, you may want to stain a small test area first (keeping in mind it could require more than one application of stain to build to a matching color) to see if that repairs the damage.

    Best regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GDRV Customer Service View Post
    Hi Rob (@Second Chance),

    Thank you. I will research this with our supplier, and keep you posted. Or alternatively, you may also want to check with your local paint or hardware store to see if they offer a close match -- if so, you may want to stain a small test area first (keeping in mind it could require more than one application of stain to build to a matching color) to see if that repairs the damage.

    Best regards,
    ~ Janice
    Sorry, I would disagree. Until the supplier says what the finish is (ie: water or oil based) you cold run the risk of making a big mess. Dark colour stains on some materials (ie: maple) don't work typically unless a base material is applied first so the stain tends to "sit" more on top rather than soak in. Not at all the same as pine or oak for example. Not knowing what or how cabinets were made of or what finishes were used, could result in making things worse. Patience Grasshopper ... its not life threatening that you can't wait for the proper info.

    JimQ

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    The finish on the island is the same way on our 303. I'd like to add that the back splash on the hutch also bleeds. . I had thought about a top coat but was not sure what the base finish is. From the way this finish washes of my first guess is it's a water base.

    I'm actually surprised it has held up as good as it has so far, with three dogs the island gets a regular wipe down especially near the food dishes.
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