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07-29-2016, 12:05 PM #1
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Hardwiring a PI EMS-HW50C in a new 397th - void warranty?
Taking delivery of a 2017 Momentum 397TH next week. One of the first "mods" I'd like to accomplish...install a PI EMS-HW50C.
The million dollar question....will this mod void the warranty?
Thanks for any insight here!
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07-29-2016, 12:31 PM #2
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Any modification or accessory cannot void a warranty unless it directly causes a failure. Even then the voiding would be restricted to the particular thing damaged.
Research the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act.
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07-29-2016, 12:46 PM #3
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Just something to think about. I had Progressive fail on the second day of a 10 day trip and won't come back on line. I call Progressive and they said it did job sacrificed itself to save the RV and send in and we will repair at no cost. I was lucky it was a plug in type so all I had to do is make trip to Camping World and purchased a cheaper Surge Guard to use while my Progressive was off for repair.
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07-29-2016, 01:17 PM #4
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07-29-2016, 01:26 PM #5
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07-29-2016, 01:33 PM #6
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Both wait for a "green light" before sending power through.
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07-29-2016, 01:46 PM #7
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I'm not sure if right or wrong but I plug the coach into the Progressive, plug the Progressive into the pole, then throw the breaker. It takes between 30 to a minute (never time just a guess) before it will allow power to go to the coach. When it detected a hot ground it wouldn't let power thought to the coach until the condition was corrected.
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07-29-2016, 03:00 PM #8
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Not so. I won't quote the whole act but I will share this:
The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act (P.L. 93-637) is a United States federal law, (15 U.S.C. § 2301 et seq.). Enacted in 1975, it is the federal statute that governs warranties on consumer products. The Act was sponsored by Senator Warren G. Magnuson of Washington and U.S. Representative John E. Moss of California, both Democrats, as well as Senator Frank Moss of Utah, who co-sponsored it with Magnuson.
A "consumer product" is generally any tangible personal property for sale and that is normally used for personal, family, or household purposes. It is important to note that the determination whether a good is a consumer product requires a factual finding, on a case-by-case basis. Najran Co. for General Contracting and Trading v. Fleetwood Enterprises, Inc., 659 F. Supp. 1081 (S.D. Ga. 1986).Paul "Poppy" and Deb Cervone
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07-30-2016, 04:33 AM #9
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07-30-2016, 11:51 PM #10
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Yes. The PI EMS-HW50C saved by bacon when I stupidly tried to use a welding adaptor to extend the shore cable the last few feet. I'll save you the details of how I made that mistake, but it put 240vac across each leg to common (L1 & L2 were joined). That mistake would have cooked every 120v appliance in the RV including all 3 A/Cs if it hadn't been there. Oh, and the EMS didn't have to fall on it's silicon sword either. Once I realized what I'd done (by reading the fault codes it was flashing), I fabbed a correctly wired adaptor and all was well.
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