New GD Reflection 29RS: Questions about Leveling System and Black Tank

[Julieanne64]

Hi there!
We just bought a 2017 Grand Design Reflection 29RS and we are having a couple issues....wanted to see if anyone else had experienced these issues:

1. The Auto Level system keeps lifting our entire trailer off the ground--like wheels off the ground. It's very inconsistent...one time it'll work great and the next day it'll lift the trailer so high the wheels on one side come way off the ground. We are following the process to the T and it keeps failing to level. Anyone else had issues? Seems almost like one of the jacks (rear) is not working properly, but not sure.

2. Black Tank seems to be leaking...already! We have only had it a week, but the first time we went to attach the stinky slinky dark yellow water poured out when we took the cap off. We've also noticed when you push the black valve handle back in, it springs back a bit...It was doing this before we put anything in this tank, so I can't imagine there is something caught in the valve? Anyone had this issue and if so, how did you fix it! It's gross!

Thank you so much!

[perfpix]

For your leveling issue, try doing a Zero Point Calibration. The procedure is on page 8 of the manual: https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/...ting_Guide.pdf

Good luck,

John

[Julieanne64]

Thanks, John! We will look into that in the morning!

[TucsonJim]

Hi there!
We just bought a 2017 Grand Design Reflection 29RS and we are having a couple issues....wanted to see if anyone else had experienced these issues:

1. The Auto Level system keeps lifting our entire trailer off the ground--like wheels off the ground. It's very inconsistent...one time it'll work great and the next day it'll lift the trailer so high the wheels on one side come way off the ground. We are following the process to the T and it keeps failing to level. Anyone else had issues? Seems almost like one of the jacks (rear) is not working properly, but not sure.

2. Black Tank seems to be leaking...already! We have only had it a week, but the first time we went to attach the stinky slinky dark yellow water poured out when we took the cap off. We've also noticed when you push the black valve handle back in, it springs back a bit...It was doing this before we put anything in this tank, so I can't imagine there is something caught in the valve? Anyone had this issue and if so, how did you fix it! It's gross!

Thank you so much!

Regarding the black tank. Many of us have experienced minor leaks from the valves in the black or gray tanks. The dealer can tear into it to try and adjust the cables and valves, but there is a much easier way. Purchase an external valve and snap it in place where the discharge pipe is for your sewage. When you get ready to dump, it will make sure you stay clean and dry. Just hook up the hose, open the external valve, then open the valves for the black and gray tanks. When you're done, close the valves for the tanks, then close the external valve. I've done this for years and I've never had a spill since.

For less than $25, it's very cheap insurance. Here's a link to the valve on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Valterra-T58-...ra+waste+valve

Jim

[Julieanne64]

Hi Jim...

THANK YOU so much for the information! Seems like a great and simple fix for a stinky problem! I just could not believe we were already having leaky valves right from the get-go! But, 'tis RV life! We are still new to fifth wheels and learning oh so much! But, we are loving our Grand Design! Thank you, again, for taking the time to respond!

All the best!

[goducks14]

Sounds like a bad dump valve. No use bandaiding it with an add on valve. Take it to the dealer and have the OEM valve fixed or replaced. That's what the GD warranty is for.

[Dalek20]

I took my new trailer to the dealer... they adjusted it, it still leaked!!! Bought the valve and has worked wonderful for the last 4 months

[goldsp8]

I had our dealer check the value on our unit. He said it is not leaking and I had to agree. I have let both valves be open until not a single drop of liquid drops out. Just moving the rig from my parking pad into my shop building results in liquid falling out. Dealer said the drain pipes are long so some liquid remains in the lines. I guess you could jack up the off side to help the drainage? I just bought the additional value.

[TucsonJim]

Sounds like a bad dump valve. No use bandaiding it with an add on valve. Take it to the dealer and have the OEM valve fixed or replaced. That's what the GD warranty is for.

It usually is caused by liquid remaining in the drain pipes while dumping. If you're not perfectly sloped each and every time you dump, you can see residual liquid come out the next time you open to dump. Or you can get a piece of TP in the valve. Sometimes, the valve gets a little sticky or after repeated uses, the cables get a little out of adjustment. I for one would not be running back to the dealer each and every time I see liquid when I open the cap. The external valve protects against any of these situations.

Jim

[RamGunner]

I'm planning to replace the cabled-valves with electric one this next year. One of mine is sometimes REALLY hard to open, and very easy at others. It doesn't follow any constants of temperature or anything else I can think of - I believe it's in how the cable itself is routed . The electric ones should resolve that.