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01-21-2017, 12:20 PM #1
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Now it's my turn - Atwood furnace won't start :-(
So after 7 weeks of flawless performance, yesterday afternoon our furnace stopped working. It worked in the morning but in the afternoon I noticed it was getting cold inside the RV and the furnace hadn't turned on. So, I cranked the thermostat up. Nothing. I then shut the furnace off (at the thermostat), waited 30 seconds and turned it back on. The fan started up and ran for a few seconds just like normal. I then heard the burner start up and run for 4-5 seconds then shut off. After about 10 seconds the burner started again then after 4-5 seconds shut off. The fan ran for another 10 seconds or so then the furnace shut off.
I shut the furnace off at the thermostat several more times over the next couple hours and was able to recreate this problem. No heat! I then went outside and checked the level of propane in the bottle being used (curb side) by disconnecting the hose and lifting the tank out. It was about 1/3 full. The street side bottle was full. I reconnected the hose and tried the furnace again. Same problem. It would cycle on and off then shut down. I flipped the propane tank switch to the street side bottle. Furnace still cycled on and off then shut down. I then returned the propane tank switch to the curb side bottle and tried the furnace one more time and it still cycled then shut down. I fired off an email to GD customer support and went to bed depressed.
I woke up this morning and tried the furnace one more time and you guessed it - it worked fine. Good grief! I didn't change anything!
Next up - I spent three hours reading every post on every thread I could find both here and on other forums only to learn the Atwood furnace problems can be caused by DOZENS of things! My warranty runs out in a week and based on what I've read, there is no single cause of my problem. I'm pretty sure GD will start throwing parts at it and I'll eventually pay big bucks to get it resolved months from now and out of warranty. I can't believe how many different things people have done to resolve this problem. It's crazy.
Here is a partial list of what worked for others-
- Propane related (switched out propane pig tails, valves, switches, lines, etc)
- Drained oil from propane lines
- Added vents to back of furnace cover to allow more air in
- Replaced vent tube
- Sealed vent tube
- Added vents in bedroom
- Replaced circuit board
- Replaced igniter
- Bent valve inside furnace
- Move wires around
- Adjust pressure regulator
- Add second duct
- Cleaned things with vacuum
- Cleaned points on something or other
- Realigned gas valve
- Replaced furnace
Sorry, just wanted to get this off my chest. I would have no problem with the failure of my furnace if I knew how to fix it. We are 1,000 miles from our dealer and living in our rig full time until April. I have very low confidence that a mobile repair person will be able to resolve this based on all the possible causes I've read about. I need a beer...Brian & Kellie
2020 Solitude 310GK-R, FBP, 1,460w solar, 540ah BBGC3, MORryde IS w/disc brakes
2020 F-350 Platinum SRW Powerstroke Tremor, 60g TF fuel tank, Hensley BD3-F air bag hitch
Previous setups:
2019 Solitude 373FB-R, 2019 F-350 Platinum DRW Powerstroke, Hensley BD5 air bag hitch
2016 Reflection 318RST, 2016 GMC 3500 Denali SRW Duramax, Hensley BD3 air bag hitch
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01-21-2017, 01:25 PM #2
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My brand new one acted similarly the other day for about ten minutes. Finally I turned the thermostat way up and it worked. Be sure to document everything up until it's repaired. You may get it covered since this is beginning a week prior to warranty running out. You already emailed GD so that is a record to get started. Good luck Brian...
Steve & Sue (pups:Sky & Sierra) Gardnerville, Nv
2017 Refelection 297RSTS
2017 Ford 350 CC 4x4 Lariat Superduty 6.7, Long Bed
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01-21-2017, 02:18 PM #3
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They chased that problem with ours for over a year, sometimes it would cycle eight or nine times before it stayed lit. The furnace was out and back four times before Atwood authorized a new furnace which has worked fine (touch wood). The dealer had it out twice and a RV repair shop in California the other two times.
Nick and Nancy
Abbotsford BC
2011 Ram 3500
2015 Reflection 303RLs
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01-21-2017, 02:23 PM #4
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Brian & Kellie
2020 Solitude 310GK-R, FBP, 1,460w solar, 540ah BBGC3, MORryde IS w/disc brakes
2020 F-350 Platinum SRW Powerstroke Tremor, 60g TF fuel tank, Hensley BD3-F air bag hitch
Previous setups:
2019 Solitude 373FB-R, 2019 F-350 Platinum DRW Powerstroke, Hensley BD5 air bag hitch
2016 Reflection 318RST, 2016 GMC 3500 Denali SRW Duramax, Hensley BD3 air bag hitch
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01-21-2017, 03:26 PM #5
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Here is a few possible trouble shooting problems.
BURNER IGNITES BUT IGNITION SYSTEM “LOCKS OUT” AND TURNS BURNER OFF
Low gas pressure --------------------------------Set pressure to a minimum of 11˝ W.C. with all appliances running.
Replace regulator if not obtainable.*
Exhaust blocked ----------------------------------Clean exhaust.*
Combustion air wheel loose ------------------Reposition wheel and tighten
Electrodes out of adjustment ------------------Adjust electrode according to furnace specifications.
Electrode defective ------------------------------Replace electrode.
Circuit Board defective --------------------------Clean plug contacts. If still defective, replace. (Check on board tester
when possible).
Flame sensor wire between electrode ------Replace wire
and circuit board defective
Air leakage at gaskets --------------------------Replace gasket
Defective heat exchanger ----------------------Replace heat exchanger
Low gas pressure --------------------------------Set pressure to a minimum of 11˝ W.C. with all appliances running.
What was running last night, that wasn't running in the morning?
Check this too.
Circuit Board defective --------------------------Clean plug contacts.
Was there a code on the circuit board?
The circuit board has three functions: create a spark, open the gas valve and lock-out when one
of the prior two functions do not occur during the ignition cycle. As long as the circuit board is
receiving the minimum micro-amps from the electrode assembly, it will not lock out. It has a 15
second ignition delay as well. This delay allows the furnace to purge any unburnt gas in the
combustion chamber before ignition occurs.Backpacker and tent camper all my life, including BSA as a kid and adult.
Motorcycle trips across the USA with a tent - 1978 to Present.
02-10-2005 - 2002 F350 SWD PSD and 2003 Citation 10'8S mostly for Crater Lake Ski Patrol.
10-29-2015 - 2016 Grand Design 380TH. It's HUGE compared to a camper.
10-19-2018 - traded truck for a 2016 Ram 3500 DRW Laramie CC 4 X 4 Long Box.
03-16-2019 - Traded Momentum for a New 2018 374TH-R Solitude
FULL TIME RV'er Nov 2021
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01-21-2017, 03:36 PM #6
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2 years
ATWOOD MOBILE PRODUCTS
hydro flame TM
FURNACE LIMITED WARRANTY
Atwood Mobile Products warrants to the original owner and subject
to the below mentioned conditions, that this product will be free of
defects in material or workmanship for a period of two years from
the original date of purchase. Atwood’s liability hereunder is limited
to the replacement of the product, repair of the product, or
replacement of the product with a reconditioned product at the
discretion of Atwood Mobile Products. This warranty is void if the
product has been damaged by accident, unreasonable use, neglect,
tampering or other causes not arising from defects in material
workmanship. This warranty extends to the original owner of the
product only and is subject to the following conditions:
1. For two years from the date of purchase, Atwood will repair or
replace any part defective in material or workmanship. This
warranty includes reasonable labor charges required to remove and
replace the part. Service calls to customer’s location are not
considered part of these charges and are, therefore, the
responsibility of the owner.
2. This warranty does not cover the following items classified as
normal maintenance:
ADJUSTING - gas pressure, voltage, loose wire connections, and/or
thermostat heat anticipator
CLEANING - air wheels, burner and/or burner orifice
CLEANING OR ADJUSTING - heat chamber, heat ducting, return air
opening, and/or exhaust tubes
3. In the event of a warranty claim, the owner must contact, in
advance, either an authorized Atwood Service Center or the
Atwood Service Department. Warranty claim service must be
performed at an authorized Atwood Service Center (a list will be
provided at no charge) or as approved by the Consumer Service
Department, Atwood Mobile Products, 4750 Hiawatha Drive,
Rockford, IL 61103-1298 USA.
Phone: 815-877-5700
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01-21-2017, 03:41 PM #7
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Thanks for the detailed reply! I haven't attempted any repairs yet and won't until I hear from GD support. To answer your questions...
The only gas appliance we had running last night and this morning was the furnace. We use electric for the fridge and water heater and we're using the cooktop. I haven't looked for a code on the circuit board. I read somewhere that the circuit board isn't easy to get to so I didn't;t look into that any further. Again, I'm waiting to hear from customer support before I start tearing into it. I don't want to void the warranty.Brian & Kellie
2020 Solitude 310GK-R, FBP, 1,460w solar, 540ah BBGC3, MORryde IS w/disc brakes
2020 F-350 Platinum SRW Powerstroke Tremor, 60g TF fuel tank, Hensley BD3-F air bag hitch
Previous setups:
2019 Solitude 373FB-R, 2019 F-350 Platinum DRW Powerstroke, Hensley BD5 air bag hitch
2016 Reflection 318RST, 2016 GMC 3500 Denali SRW Duramax, Hensley BD3 air bag hitch
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01-21-2017, 03:43 PM #8
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Brian & Kellie
2020 Solitude 310GK-R, FBP, 1,460w solar, 540ah BBGC3, MORryde IS w/disc brakes
2020 F-350 Platinum SRW Powerstroke Tremor, 60g TF fuel tank, Hensley BD3-F air bag hitch
Previous setups:
2019 Solitude 373FB-R, 2019 F-350 Platinum DRW Powerstroke, Hensley BD5 air bag hitch
2016 Reflection 318RST, 2016 GMC 3500 Denali SRW Duramax, Hensley BD3 air bag hitch
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01-21-2017, 04:13 PM #9
You might try giving the Atwood service center a call on Monday. They are usually very helpful.
Jim
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01-21-2017, 04:15 PM #10
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I have been following all of these threads for quite a long time. I had a few of the same issues that you mentioned. In the end, I switched tanks and only draw from the drivers side. That has solved my problems with the furnace. The fact that I can't draw from either side actually works better for me, due to the fact that when I am out, I have to go outside and make the switch. It forces me to get the empty filled asap. It' an easy way to see if you have a propane related problem.
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