A F-250 and a SRW F-350 Are Nearly Identical Trucks

[Believer]

I just traded my 2018F250 with the camper package and snowplow package gasser for my 2019 F350 diesel. Pretty much truck for truck spec. I pulled my 2020 315TS with both. I totally dissaggree with your statememt they are the same truck....not spec sheets mind you . Actual hands on owning both trucks and telling the difference when riding empty...and pulling a large TT.
Been in the seat of both... Just Not the same.
Believer

[JeffD68]

I just traded my 2018F250 with the camper package and snowplow package gasser for my 2019 F350 diesel. Pretty much truck for truck spec. I pulled my 2020 315TS with both. I totally dissaggree with your statememt they are the same truck....not spec sheets mind you . Actual hands on owning both trucks and telling the difference when riding empty...and pulling a large TT.
Been in the seat of both... Just Not the same.
Believer

You got yourself an upgrade there!

You are comparing apples to oranges, though. When you go from a 6.2 F-250 to a 6.7 F-350, you get a much different truck in many ways. The spec sheets would indicate as much. You now have an extra 700 pounds over the front suspension, a massive upgrade in torque, and a totally different transmission. Your previous F-250 and new F-350 should feel completely different! When it comes to the stuff that effects towing, these two specific trucks share a common frame and front suspension and pretty much everything else is different...and I would say much better in your F-350. Congratulations on the new truck!

[Txfivver]

I just traded my 2018F250 with the camper package and snowplow package gasser for my 2019 F350 diesel. Pretty much truck for truck spec. I pulled my 2020 315TS with both. I totally dissaggree with your statememt they are the same truck....not spec sheets mind you . Actual hands on owning both trucks and telling the difference when riding empty...and pulling a large TT.
Been in the seat of both... Just Not the same.
Believer

I know how you feel believer. I pulled a Reflection 28BH fivver with a 2017 F250 diesel at 10K lbs and 1600 pin weight to a 2019 F350 dually pulling a Solitude 375. That's an increase of 240% in pin weight and 65% in trailer weight and the 350 pulls it easier and more relaxed than the 250 did the smaller trailer! It's a firmer ride when empty but thats part of the fun of these big trucks lol.

[JeffD68]

I know how you feel believer. I pulled a Reflection 28BH fivver with a 2017 F250 diesel at 10K lbs and 1600 pin weight to a 2019 F350 dually pulling a Solitude 375. That's an increase of 240% in pin weight and 65% in trailer weight and the 350 pulls it easier and more relaxed than the 250 did the smaller trailer! It's a firmer ride when empty but thats part of the fun of these big trucks lol.

That isn't really a fair comparison. A DRW F-350 (or 450) will blow the doors off of any SRW truck (250 or 350) in overall stability whether you're carrying a big slide in or towing a hefty fifth wheel. I have never heard anyone report that the upgrade to a dually wasn't a game changer.

The premise of the thread is comparing a F-250 to a comparably equipped SRW F-350.

As I stated in a previous post, my next truck will almost certainly be a dually. I love your setup!

[Txfivver]

That isn't really a fair comparison. A DRW F-350 (or 450) will blow the doors off of any SRW truck (250 or 350) in overall stability whether you're carrying a big slide in or towing a hefty fifth wheel. I have never heard anyone report that the upgrade to a dually wasn't a game changer.

The premise of the thread is comparing a F-250 to a comparably equipped SRW F-350.

As I stated in a previous post, my next truck will almost certainly be a dually. I love your setup!

Thanks Jeff, I appreciate the compliment. You are right of course about the somewhat unfair comparison. I was just pointing out the amazing ease with which the right truck for the job gets it done. Most Reflections are easily handled by an F350 but some can overtax a 250. Being in the truck business I see so many people trying to pull or carry way too much with a 250 and not even realize it. As you very accurately pointed out there are a lot of similarities between the two but I've always believed more capability and cushion is better. Enjoy your rig, you have a beautiful setup as well fellow Ford guy!

[MtnGuy]

I have question, when I bought my 2019 F250 gas, the specifications for the 350 had a lower payload range than the 250, so I opted for the 250 at 3200 lbs.

Could you please post that document ??

[MarkRizRV]

Could you please post that document ??

The gas engine in the 350 only allows GVWR of 10,000 lbs max, so if you compare the payload between the 250 and the 350, the 250 has more payload. The Ford web site will not let you build a gas 350 with more than 10,000 lbs of GVWR

Mark

[JeffD68]

The gas engine in the 350 only allows GVWR of 10,000 lbs max, so if you compare the payload between the 250 and the 350, the 250 has more payload. The Ford web site will not let you build a gas 350 with more than 10,000 lbs of GVWR

Mark

When I read your post, it didn't make sense to me. One of the primary reasons people choose a 6.2 in a SRW or DRW F-350 is to inflate their payload sticker. If the 6.2 F-250 and 6.2 F-350 SRW are limited to the same 10,000 GVWR, what is the reason for the distinction? By definition, a truck with a max 10,000 GVWR is a Class 2 truck (3/4 ton). The F-350 exists to fill the Class 3 (1 ton) category in their lineup so there is no reason for them to rate it as a Class 2...because they already have the F-250 in that class.

When building a truck on the ford website, the only GVWR options are de-rates. You don't need to choose one but I'm sure many do check one of the boxes because it is somewhat confusing. In taking another look at the Ford specifications, it certainly appears that it is possible to build a 6.2 F-350 with the max GVWR of 11,500 pounds. As a matter of fact, if the truck is equipped with 18" wheels and A/T tires it looks like the lowest standard GVWR is 11,300 pounds for a short bed and 11,500 for a long bed regardless of cab configuration. There may be other requirements, like gear or front spring selection, to achieve the desired GVWR.

[MtnGuy]

The gas engine in the 350 only allows GVWR of 10,000 lbs max, so if you compare the payload between the 250 and the 350, the 250 has more payload. The Ford web site will not let you build a gas 350 with more than 10,000 lbs of GVWR

Mark

Mark, thank you for posting the document. I don't exactly know the source of the document or what it is reference, though.

If it is the case where you can only get 10,000 lb GVWR on an F350 with the 6.2L engine, then getting and F250 over an F350 makes sense. I will check on that further.


I know that the F350 can be derated "on paper" to show a 10,000 lb GVWR, but I am not sure that is the case with your research . That would be same truck as an F350 with a 11,500 lb GVWR, but would show a 10,000 on the title, door sticker, and window sticker. That allows someone to register the truck in certain states to have lower tag and insurance costs even thought it has the exact same setup as a 11,500 lb GVWR. I would be worried that states that enforce weight limits that it could cause problems, as well as being a problem in case of an accident when over the 10,000 lb GVWR.

[MarkRizRV]

The Specs came right from the Ford Web site for 2019's

The Specs are based on the GVWR as I highlighted on the prev image

When building a 350 6.2 on the Ford Site it does not allow you to select a GVWR greater that 10000 without going to a 6.7 Diesel, so in order to get more payload you need more GVWR based on their specs

If Ford allowed you select a higher GVWR then you could get more payload making the 350 a higher payload number

I guess if you don't have to select the GCWR option on the web site, how do you know exactly what you get and what the payload is, does anyone have a 2019 350 6.2 350 4x4 CC with more payload than 3200

Mark